The mission now is to boil down the white house's fundamental pro-corruption orientation down to a single phone call.

They lie as a way of being.

Everything they say must be presumed a lie, including their own names, and "good morning."
Any interview with any member of the WH staff—or any Republican operative who would speak in their defense—should be approached and framed by the journalistic org conducting it as they would a propaganda apartchick of an authoritarian regime... because that's what it is.
Not a critique of PBS specifically, btw; rather a call to totally reclassify the GOP.

You cannot "interview" Mike Pence, in my opinion.

You can tell your audience you've put him under a microscope for dissection and observation.

Any "interview" is just watching him lie.
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