Mega Thread in English on police violence in the USA. 
1/3 of all the people killed by a stranger in the USA are actually killed by a police officer
In March and April of 2020 (during quarantine) the police killed as many people as they did in March and April of 2019 even though people were in their homes and there was a historic
In March and April of 2020 (during quarantine) the police killed as many people as they did in March and April of 2019 even though people were in their homes and there was a historic
decrease in crime. Despite that the police killed the same number of people at the same rate.
2019 was the first year ever where black people were more afraid of being killed by police than community violence
In Minneapolis (where George Floyd was murdered) black people have 13
2019 was the first year ever where black people were more afraid of being killed by police than community violence
In Minneapolis (where George Floyd was murdered) black people have 13
3 times (avg. is 3 times) more likely to be killed by a police officer than white people. The highest racial disparity with regarding police violence that exists in the USA.
DeRay Mckesson is a civil rights activist focused primarily on issues of innovation, equity and justice.
DeRay Mckesson is a civil rights activist focused primarily on issues of innovation, equity and justice.
As a leading voice in the Black Lives Matter Movement and a co-founder of Campaign Zero, a comprehensive platform of research-based policy solutions to end police brutality in America, DeRay has worked to connect individuals with knowledge and tools, and provide citizens and
policy makers with commonsense policies that ensure equity.
Campaign Zero, which emerged from the police protests in Ferguson, Missouri, has come up with ideas that could fit the bill: They don’t cost any money and could be implemented very fast
A solution has to do two things.
Campaign Zero, which emerged from the police protests in Ferguson, Missouri, has come up with ideas that could fit the bill: They don’t cost any money and could be implemented very fast
A solution has to do two things.
Change police behavior and change the outcomes.
One of the things that does that so effectively but is operated under the radar is use of force policies.
There are 8 policies that can help make a change and these 8 policies when implemented by a police department can result to
One of the things that does that so effectively but is operated under the radar is use of force policies.
There are 8 policies that can help make a change and these 8 policies when implemented by a police department can result to
a 72% reduction of police violence.
These policies are pretty simple like for example the “requires de-escalation” policy where officers are required to put space in between them and another person and talk somebody down and be more conciliatory. It requires them to use
These policies are pretty simple like for example the “requires de-escalation” policy where officers are required to put space in between them and another person and talk somebody down and be more conciliatory. It requires them to use
different methods and tactics and not chokeholds and violence.
Banning chokeholds and strangleholds seem simple but only 28 of the 100 large police departments even ban chokeholds and strangleholds today.
The state of N.Y. (the biggest department in the USA) banned chokeholds a
Banning chokeholds and strangleholds seem simple but only 28 of the 100 large police departments even ban chokeholds and strangleholds today.
The state of N.Y. (the biggest department in the USA) banned chokeholds a
long time ago in the 60s but after the Eric Garner murder, Bill de Blasio, the mayor of N.Y. City lifted the ban on chokeholds in a sneaky way.
If you read the N.Y. City policy it says that chokeholds are banned but if you read the next page it says everything that was banned in
If you read the N.Y. City policy it says that chokeholds are banned but if you read the next page it says everything that was banned in
the page before can be unbanned on a case-by-case basis of a committee that is consisted of 4 police officers. That is a blatant mockery.
Another policy is the “duty to intervene”. An officer is required to intervene if he sees a colleague engaged in misconduct.
The only way
Another policy is the “duty to intervene”. An officer is required to intervene if he sees a colleague engaged in misconduct.
The only way
that all the 3 officers in George Floyd's murder were fired (although only one was kneeling on Floyd's neck) is because activists pressed for a “duty to intervene” clause in the use of force policy of the Minneapolis department.
You can find all these policies in
You can find all these policies in
8cantwait.org
8cantwait campaign's main focus is to reduce the power that the police has to inflict harm in the communities. The police is against that because they support that if you restrict their ability to use force then it makes them less safe and it leads in an
8cantwait campaign's main focus is to reduce the power that the police has to inflict harm in the communities. The police is against that because they support that if you restrict their ability to use force then it makes them less safe and it leads in an
increase in crime. That's something that the data doesn't support though. The data shows that in the places with the most restricted policies the police and community are the safest and there is no indication that it increases crime.
Almost in every city the mayor has almost
Almost in every city the mayor has almost
unilateral power to impact these changes today. Mayors and police chiefs can put these 8 policies in place that are being proved to save lives.
It's a low-bar that you should know the rules about which the police can kill you but for some reason you can't (as a citizen) get the
It's a low-bar that you should know the rules about which the police can kill you but for some reason you can't (as a citizen) get the
code of conduct policies from the police departments who for some reason are being secretive.
After extensive research, many lawsuits and legal battles Mckesson and his team managed to gain access to some of the policies across the States, built a database and compared policies
After extensive research, many lawsuits and legal battles Mckesson and his team managed to gain access to some of the policies across the States, built a database and compared policies
across the USA.
There are a couple databases about police violence the most popular being the Washington Post database. This database though only captures people who got killed by an on-duty officer with a gun meaning that incidents like Eric Garner and George Floyd are not in
There are a couple databases about police violence the most popular being the Washington Post database. This database though only captures people who got killed by an on-duty officer with a gun meaning that incidents like Eric Garner and George Floyd are not in
their database on which is used by mass media.
DeRay Mckesson and his team built another database (the only one) that captures on-duty, off-duty killings, all weapons where the police officer contributed to the death of a person. This database has been used in over 1200 studies
DeRay Mckesson and his team built another database (the only one) that captures on-duty, off-duty killings, all weapons where the police officer contributed to the death of a person. This database has been used in over 1200 studies
in the past 3-4 years.
The data shows that 5 things that were implemented by the police to decrease police violence don't work:
1. The body cameras didn't change police behavior in a scalable way.
2. Implicit bias training. They uncover the bias officers have about race,
The data shows that 5 things that were implemented by the police to decrease police violence don't work:
1. The body cameras didn't change police behavior in a scalable way.
2. Implicit bias training. They uncover the bias officers have about race,
gender or identity. The best study showed that officers who are predisposed to these messages going in come out with the greatest attitude change. But in general doesn't change their behavior.
3. Mental health training. Training police officers to engage in mental health crisis.
3. Mental health training. Training police officers to engage in mental health crisis.
This also doesn't change their behavior. This training is not being done by mental health experts.
4. The number of black officers. This is very interesting. The number of black officers does matter but it doesn't matter until we get to 35% of the force being black. Researchers
4. The number of black officers. This is very interesting. The number of black officers does matter but it doesn't matter until we get to 35% of the force being black. Researchers
haven't found yet why this is happening but the results are stellar. Graphs show a decrease in police killings when the police force is consisted of 35% black. This is not a scalable solution because only 12 of the 18000 police departments across the States have over 30% black
composition
5. Community policing. The idea that if community and police trusted each other more the outcome would be better. This idea is just racist at it's core because only with black, brown and poor people we would say the police should go play basketball with kids and bond
5. Community policing. The idea that if community and police trusted each other more the outcome would be better. This idea is just racist at it's core because only with black, brown and poor people we would say the police should go play basketball with kids and bond
so that they treat them better and not kill them. This idea was never offered around white people. It's like implying that black and poor people are predisposed to crime. The data is clear that community policing changes the attitude of both police and community members but it
doesn't change the outcomes with which they use force or the frequency with which officers use force
Another strategy is shifting and shrinking the role of the police.
Of all the arrests that happened in the State the last 20 years only 5% happened for violent crimes according
Another strategy is shifting and shrinking the role of the police.
Of all the arrests that happened in the State the last 20 years only 5% happened for violent crimes according
to the FBI.
Despite that police departments are being stuffed and resourced with equipment as if this number is 50%-60%. So it's not necessary for an officer to be armed on a mental health crisis response call, it's not necessary for an officer going to a car accident or helping
Despite that police departments are being stuffed and resourced with equipment as if this number is 50%-60%. So it's not necessary for an officer to be armed on a mental health crisis response call, it's not necessary for an officer going to a car accident or helping
find a missing child to be armed.
All these excess resources and responsibilities should be shift away from police departments
The police kill in average 1100 people a year. This number since 2014 has been increased
Since 2014 organizations like 8cantwait have accumulated more
All these excess resources and responsibilities should be shift away from police departments
The police kill in average 1100 people a year. This number since 2014 has been increased
Since 2014 organizations like 8cantwait have accumulated more
info. Most people didn't know that there is a law in Oregon that say an officer can use deadly force if they THINK you just committed a felony or they THINK you're about to commit a felony. Most people didn't know that in Chicago they destroy police officer's disciplinary records
every 5 years. In Minneapolis there is a clause that say police officers can have a community oversight but the community oversight board doesn't have the power to discipline them
The POTUS has very little to do with local policing. Out of the 18000 police departments the POTUS
The POTUS has very little to do with local policing. Out of the 18000 police departments the POTUS
only manages the three biggest police departments in the country (Boarder Patrol, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, FBI)
The power of change lies in mayors, governors and city councils in the local communities and local police departments
The mayors have way more power than
The power of change lies in mayors, governors and city councils in the local communities and local police departments
The mayors have way more power than
they want to let on with this stuff, they manage the police departments and they don't need grand hearings and legislations to make changes
Police unions have been the single biggest impediment to these changes across the country. There have been a lot of police chiefs who are
Police unions have been the single biggest impediment to these changes across the country. There have been a lot of police chiefs who are
willing to cooperate but the same can't be said about union leaders with the union contracts. These contracts protect officers who have been charged with misdemeanor and/or inappropriate behavior. In Minneapolis half of the people who are fired get rehired and that's a trend we
see across the country.
When we think about the last 100 years of civil rights work the police is one of the only institutions that has remain largely unchanged but now we know way more about the way the system is functioning than we ever have before. The mechanisms and the
When we think about the last 100 years of civil rights work the police is one of the only institutions that has remain largely unchanged but now we know way more about the way the system is functioning than we ever have before. The mechanisms and the
inside machinery are well known and people like DeRay Mckesson don't intend to spend their whole lives on this cause. They are adamant that change is near.
#8cantwait
#BlackLivesMatter
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#PoliceReform
#8cantwait
#BlackLivesMatter
#PoliceBrutality
#PoliceReform
Sources - More :
deray.com/about/
vox.com/2020/6/5/21280…
The Bill Simmons Podcast (Deray McKesson episode)
deray.com/about/
vox.com/2020/6/5/21280…
The Bill Simmons Podcast (Deray McKesson episode)
