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How to manage strangles dynamically incase of a violent move or IV spike ?
1) Yesterday and infact entire last week if you had created strangles you would have experienced that during upmove only call side were increasing but puts weren’t decaying.
2)In morning I had created a short strangle
200 lots 25000 PE sell at 102
200 lots 27000 CE sell at 161
You can sell from below image that if I had waited in this strangle till day end I would have lost around -4.5 L
So lets see what all adjustments did I do logically.
3)After creating strangles the premiums strarted increasing as puts were not decaying and calls were increasing.
So I had kept 100 lots buy on 26500 CE at 400(day high)
My buy got executed at 400 around 12:15 pm & I exited 25000 PE at 75
4) I had kept more 100 lots buy at 435 (recent high made during upmove till now)
The buy got executed at 12:15 pm
So my current open postions now were
200 lots 26500 buy at average 420
200 lots 27000 CE sell at 161
5) Logic:
As short strangles are basically short vol so if there is a movement on one side with no decay then one can start buying atm calls.
What this does is it converts your strangles into ratio spread and if move continues eventually into a debit spread
6)So if there is an upmove or IV spike the long atm call controls the MTM and any spike helps you as now you have slowly converted from strangles to ratio spread and finally a debit spread.
7) And that’s how I managed on Friday as per market movements.
(Payoff is not exact as I exited my sold put earlier)
But without adjustment MTM would have been -4.5 L and I ended in slight green due to trade management inspite of a 100 point spike in sold strangles
8) What if market reverse ?
As now you are into a debit spread max loss is capped and if market reverses you can sell additional calls to convert position into a ratio spread again
So basically :
26500 CE buy
27000 CE Sell
27500 CE Sell (extra)
9) So that’s how you can convert a short strangle into a ratio spread and into a debit spread if market becomes trending and if market again reverse then again into a ratio spread
10) Options Trading is about managing your trades and keeping MTM under control
1) Have a plan before your trade & Know the effect of your adjustments 2) Don’t let sold options become ITM 3) Adjust as per market movements
Importance of Risk Management
(Real Life Examples)
1) On 21st Sept 2018, I had sold 330 PE overnight and YesBank opened 10% lower and closed the day at -33%. But I survived as I bought 320 put as protection.
If I had not bought 320 PE then would have lost 10 L
Thread on system trading and conviction to follow them.
1) On Aug 2016, I had my highest ever loss of 18 L due to illiquidty risk. I had shorted JustDial 500 CE and was in profit at 3.19 pm but at 3.20 pm lost -18 L due to a risk I wasn’t aware at that time.
2) I had huge qty in Just Dial CE but as my position was huge and Just Dial being an illiquid script. My position got squared from 0 to 10 Rs. I was in 1.3 L profit at 3.19 & 3:20 -18 L.
Lost almost 20 L in a min
Check my email to Zerodha and their reply to understand more.
3) I was totally upset as I never thought that I could lose so much due to illiquidity.
There was nothing wrong with system or risk management but this was a risk which I was never aware.
This made me believe in risk management ever then before.
At around 12 pm, I had 22200 straddle and was in a profit of 35
points per lot.
But around 1:30 pm markets fell sharply and I had an otm buy stop on 21700 PE at 145 (I keep these orders in the system to protect mtm if there’s a big directional movement)
(2)
The protective order got executed at 145 and BNF also broke 22000 (crucial support)
I sold additional calls of 22000 at around 220 with a SL as system had turned bearish.
I always keep my mistakes & lessons learnt in front of my screen while trading.
Bcz we as traders tend to commit the same mistakes everytime.
So seeing your learnt lessons everyday ensures that you avoid them. #trading#mistakes (1)
In 2017, I analysed all my trades and saw that I have majorly lost in stock futures and profits came only via index trading.
I accepted that I am not great at stock trading and been trading index only majorly since then.
(2)
I decided to adjust all of my past losses to 1 % of capital to see what the effect of capping the downside.
I would have had a gain of more than 230 % if I had capped losses at 1% of cap.