Do you give vitamin K to pts with cirrhosis presenting with elevated INR? I would love to hear your thoughts about the topic.
Here are a few questions about Vit K in cirrhosis I wanted to answer. Please post additional articles on the topics that you know of. Question 1: Is there proof that patients with cirrhosis are Vit K deficient?
3/ It is proposed that patients w/ cirrhosis are at ⬆️ risk for Vit K def. I could find very few studies about this. This study of pediatric pts w/ cholestatic liver disease had high prevalence, but very different pop from most adults w/ cirrhosis. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19502999/
4/ There is a high risk of Vit A and D in patients with cirrhosis referred for transplant evaluation and the presence or absence of cholestatic liver disease did not predict the deficiency. The article did not mention Vit K def. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
5/ There certainly is a theoretical concern due to antibiotics, malnutrition, possible bile salt alteration decreasing vit absorption and other fat soluble vit def. Would love to see more articles you know of.
6/ ? 2: Is Vit K safe?
In the IV dose, Vit K can can an anaphylactoid reaction, exact incidence is not characterized but seems fairly rare. I have seen this once. (pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11406734/).
7/ There is also a theoretical risk that giving Vit K could actually increase risk of clotting, but I did not see any validation for this.
8/ ? 3: Does it correct coag parameters? In a comparative study, In pts given 1 10mg subQ dose of Vit K- Protein C levels declined in pts with chronic HBV and hepatitis C virus but FVII, total and free protein S did not increase in any group. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23080365/ Image
A retrospective cohort found that pts given at least one dose of IV Vit K (usually 10mg) had INR reduction of .31. However, 62% of patients did not have a significant decline in INR. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28211589/
10/This retrospective matched cohort paper
bleeding risk=history of varices AOR= 6.35. Vitamin K had no significant impact on bleeding in multivar analysis and no sig effect on INR decrease. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26586854/ Image
11/ Some factors in article found sig associated with INR responders were: ICU care within 7 days and baseline INR >1.6, and receipt of blood products. Really sick pts may be more likely to respond (may be more likely to receive antibiotics too although article did not mention).
12/ Another retrospective study found that 16.5% in the vitamin K1 group compared to 5.5% in the no vitamin K1 group had rebleeding within 30 days. Pts who received vit k sicker w/ more severe thrombocytopenia. Avg dose vit K 25mg over 3 days (57% IV). ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P… Image
13/ Obviously, since this is a retrospective study and pts who received Vit K likely sicker, these results should be interpreted with caution.
14/ Another retrospective review found that Vit K supplementation decreased INR by only .08 and only 7% had INR Downwards arrow of at least .4. (I could only see abstract, so not sure of avg Vit K dosage)
ashpublications.org/blood/article/…
15/ To stir the pot, a retrospective cohort treated with vitamin K for for 3 to 39 days (avg of 16.3 days) had a Downwards arrowrisk of death. However, since a small, retrospective study (only 57 total w/ 14 controls) data prob too small to interpret. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
16/ Here is the statement from the 2019 AGA Practice Updates on coagulation in cirrhosis about Vit K in cirrhosis: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30986390/ Image
Here is a great review article on the topic that I enjoyed reading: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
Conclusions:
☄️In certain patients, Vit K may ⬇️ the INR in some but in most pts the changes are minimal.
☄️Vit K administration has not been shown to decrease bleeding risk
☄️IV Vit K caries a small risk of anaphylactoid reaction
Final thoughts: Overall, there does not seem to be a lot of data to support giving vit k but generally safe (especially oral).
My personal take: Like Vit D in many diseases, Vit K def may correlate with poor outcomes but repletion unlikely to improve outcomes. Thoughts?

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1/#tweetorial coagulopathy in liver disease and the role of vit K

Thanks to all who responded to the poll.
2/ Pts with cirrhosis are at higher risk of bleeding d/t ⬇️ factors, right? Not necessarily. In cirrhosis, there are ⬇️ in both anticoagulant and procoagulant factors in the liver. Additionally, factor VIII and VWF are usually increased. Image
3/ INR is only measuring a small part of the coagulation cascade, the extrinsic pathway (Factor VII). Additionally, variceal bleed is driven by ⬆️ portal pressure primarily.
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#tweetorial To obtain blood cultures or not to culture? This was inspired by the ? from @reverendofdoubt and @GermHunterMD reply.

A pt w/ a hip fracture on POD1 has fever of 100.8. HR 90, BP 110/75, SpO2 96% ambient air. No localizing symptoms. Do you obtain blood cultures?
2/My reflex when I hear fever is to order blood cultures. It’s not wrong to make sure, right? As a resident, I remember grumbling at the ED for not ordering cultures on that CAP patient. First, what are the harms of ordering unnecessary blood cultures?
3/ Aside from the cost, there is a high rate of contamination on blood cultures from 0.6% to over 6%. In conditions with a low pretest probability of bacteremia, this represents a large prob that a + culture is contamination. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
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1/ #tweetorial Next on the skeptical diagnosis series, I wanted to address cellulitis. I always feel a little angst when I am called to admit a patient w/ cellulitis. Does the patient really have cellulitis? In what % of pts diagnosed with cellulitis is the diagnosis incorrect?
2/ Here, I will focus and diagnosis and mimics. I plan to discuss mng of cellulitis later. Studies show that in 30-33% in patients diagnosed with cellulitis, the diagnosis is incorrect.
3/ Of those with an incorrect diagnosis, around 85% percent do not need hospitalization and 92% did not need antibiotics. Misdiagnosis is associated with millions in increased healthcare costs and up to 9000 nosocomial infections.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27806170/
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29453874/
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1/Recapping some teaching points from @CPSolvers VMR today to keep me from refreshing NYT and 538 every 2 minutes. Thanks to @Flower_freeland for presenting an awesome case today.
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2/ Case: A 28yM diagnosed w/uveitis about 4-5 weeks prior p/w N/V, weight loss, diffuse weakness. Most uveitis is anterior involving the iris (iritis). Anterior usually painful (front of eye in innervated). Infections commonly unilateral, autoimmune may be bilateral Image
3/ Up to 50% of anterior uveitis is HLA-B27+. Lymphoma is an important mimic. Because the patient is from Vietnam, TB is the first thing that came to my mind. With TB, you should also thing of histo (and other funi). Knowing an immune status is important is working-up infection
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#medtwitter 1/What are the top three diagnoses of which you automatically skeptical? My top 3 are UTI, cellulitis, and CAP. Before talking more about "UTIs:, I must repeat the mantra:
PYURIA DOES NOT = UTI.
I will focus mostly on pyuria
2/ Let's consider the following scenario: A young female comes in fever. Urinalysis is obtained that shows 10WBC, - nitrite negative. Boom! You have diagnosed UTI, done. Just kidding, if only it was that easy.
3/I highly suggest listening to the @thecurbsiders episode on UTI (thecurbsiders.com/podcast/231). An important point they make is that UTI is bacteruria + signs and symptoms that localize to the urinary tract. Bacteruria alone is not enough for treatment.
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1/ #medtwitter #tweetorial Raise your hand if you have ever inappropriately checked an ammonia level.🙋
1. Why is ammonia ⬆️ in liver failure and how is this connected w/ encephalopathy?
2. When should levels be checked?
3. Aside from cirrhosis, what other conditions ⬆️ammonia?
2/ Ammonia is primarily produced by bacteria w/ urease enz in intestines but is also produced in muscle and the kidneys.

Table source: ccjm.org/content/76/4/2…
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