The other day I had said that buying face planting rookie WR's was a bad idea...

But what about RB's?!

Let's dive in.
This is a look at all of the rookie RB's that went in the first round of dynasty rookie drafts since 2007 that lost more than 12 spots in startup adp after their rookie year.
4/23 went on to hit a single top 12 season or more. 17%.

Historically this has not been a good bet to make. Don't make bad bets.
If you are buying low on guys from the second round of dynasty rookie drafts I suspect you will be wildly disappointed as well.
Again, I know there are those of you that will read this and say, "But my favorite players different" and I get it. I want my favorite players to be different as well.

The only reasonable "buy lows" at the RB position in my opinion are ones with first round NFL draft capital.
If we arent talking about first round NFL picks, I'd say your favorite RB is probably toast.
From the 2020 class we have a couple players to discuss.

Clyde Edwards-Helaire had a super inflated original startup ADP to begin with.

Clyde's ADP as a rookie was 13th overall.

Saquon Barkley's was 6th.

Adrian Peterson's was 10th.

CEH was comically overdrafted.
Here were my thoughts on Clyde's rookie profile.

I am currently revamping my RB process and I think CEH is actually going to end up in the coinflip tier instead of the maybe tier FWIW

So what does a possible ADP loss mean for CEH? I dont think much. I still think he has a reasonable shot at a top 12 season at some point in the future.

Considering his ridiculous rookie ADP I dont think its that shocking if he continues to fall.
But first round RB's tend to be fine regardless. So if you can buy low on CEH, I think I'd be into it. I dont think his ADP fall is as much of a "death sentence" as it is for some others.

Though he's still probably overpriced based on the Andy Reid workhorse narrative.
Ke'Shawn Vaughn on the other hand....

This guy was also comically overdrafted after landing in Tampa Bay. He was a fairly poor prospect.

In fact, I gave him a bust grade.

I was going to put in a "bust" gif but thought it might return some NSFW options so you get this instead
I dont have a full breakdown of Vaughn because tbh I never thought he was good enough to warrant one 😂
But one of the patrons asked why I had Akers and Vaughn ranked so incredibly differently given there were people on the tweeter saying they were the same. So I went through it in our patrons chat and took screenshots to put in our library on May 17

docs.google.com/document/d/1n5…
Needless to say I never thought he had a chance, and I certainly dont after his rookie season.
The third likely ADP faceplanter at he RB position is Anthony McFarland.

He was a day 3 pick to begin with so compounding that with a first year flop is... concerning

I know that if Conner leaves there will be a hive of analysts that say McFarland will take over.
At best you might see a shot of value and then you can hope to flip.

If you are hoping for meaningful production I think you are going to be disappointed.
I think another guy that *could fall is Zack Moss, though he isn't in a position to fall right now. He's actually gained 10 spots in ADP from May to right now.

I use May to May as the cutoff.

He's someone to monitor.
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29 Jan
One of the most interesting debates on fantasy twitter is the film vs analytics war that wages on year after year.

I think, for the most part, everyone can agree that neither side has all of the answers. So then the question becomes "how to meld them together?"

Let's Dive In.
I am certain that everyone has their own way of doing this but I thought I'd share mine. If you do it a different way please share! I am always looking for a better way to do things

Anyway, here it goes...
I start with analytics. Analytics is really good at figuring out who NOT to draft. Its not as good at figuring out who TO draft.

I essentially "cast my net" with analytics and then try to "fish within the net" with film.
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28 Jan
So as you know by now, buying rookie face planters is typically a bad idea.

But what about at the NFL's most important position, Quarterback?

Let's dive in.
I use 1 qb adp because superflex startup adp doesnt go back very far. That means that good QB prospects can go in rounds 1-4 of dynasty rookie drafts. So I am not going to break it down that way for QB.

Instead we'll separate by first and second round NFL picks.
Here are the first round picks that face planted for ADP when comparing their startup ADP before and after their rookie years.

This is based on using May as the cutoff month. Image
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26 Jan
So I do this thing every year called ADP trends. Basically looking at the ADP change for each player before and after their rookie years.

Face planters are bad bets. (lose 12 or more spots of ADP)

And hence that rookie you want to buy-low on is a very bad idea.

Let's dive in
Here is a list of WR that lost 12 or more spots since 2007 from the first round of dynasty rookie drafts.

#badbets Image
Now I get that you are going to tell me that player x is different because he was injured! And I totally understand the rationale. But ZERO of the guys that went on to hit had extensive injuries as rookies.
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3 Jan
People keep pointing to Terry McLaurin as this great example of a player that was held back in college because of his great teammates and that's why he didn't breakout in college..

Let's take a quick look at the studs holding him back his last two years in college..
2017 receiving yards leaders.

Feel free to stop me when I get to the studs

Parris Campbell - 584
KJ Hill - 549
Terry McLaurin - 436
Johnnie Dixon - 422
Binjimen Victor - 349
Austin Mack - 343
2018 receiving leaders

Parris Campbell - 1,063
KJ Hill - 885
Terry McLaurin - 701
Johnnie Dixon - 669
Read 4 tweets
3 Jan
It has been brought to my attention that there are a great many breakout age deniers #onhere or perhaps just some are uninformed.

Let's see what history can teach us about Devonta's chances, shall we?

Let's dive in.
As always, the first thing to look at is the overall hit rate.

I have 361 players in my database with a breakout age that were drafted in rounds 1-7 from 2003-2017.

The hit rate is:

Top 12 - 54/361 = 15%
Top 24 - 81/361 = 22%

So lets see if Breakout age can explain that
First we'll look at breakout age by age for the full sample from rounds 1-7 and then we'll start controlling for draft capital.

Up first - No breakout age.

Top 12 - 2/43 = 5%
Top 24 - 2/43 = 5%
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2 Jan
One of the things that I think is rather fascinating is the early declare aspect of WR evaluations.

As you know, Devonta Smith had the opportunity to declare last year but presumably the NFL said no thanks.

Let's dive in.
This is the overall hit rate, not accounting for draft capital. This is just everyone that has been drafted from rounds 1-7.

Top 12 - 54/361 = 15%
Top 24 - 81/361 = 22%
So lets start cutting it down.

Here are the early declares with no control for draft capital.

Top 12 - 32/110 = 29%
Top 24 - 45/110 = 41%
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