There's some paper work going on. Also a UK witness needs to be sorted?
So the proposed 35 witnesses?
How can they manage to get through the remainder by Tuesday, which GM's team has said should be the end?
Was that number of witnesses just a furfy to tie up the Gov?
Will the three names mentioned by #GhislaineMaxwell's team - Eva, Michelle and Kelly - turn up today or was that another diversionary tactic?
And for those asking, Alan Dershowitz is 83yo.
So no, it doesn't seem like the 81yo witness is Dersh.
Judge Nathan: There are also some 40 prior inconsistent statements. My colleague Judge Kaplan has helpfully set forth the standard.
Maxwell's lawyer: I think impeachment is for the truth [of the matter asserted]
Judge Nathan: That's way too metaphysical for me to handle right now. (Laughs).
Thanks to Matthew from @innercitypress for providing the tone in the court.
Seems GM wants to start with a law enforcement officer. "we'd like to ask leading questions"
Judge Nathan: Truth comes out on direct. Start with that.
Maxwell's lawyer: I want to get to the absence of evidence, the lack of GPS given the age of the allegations.
Woah, is this the best she has got. The pub owner across the road from her London House. Insane.
But first up Special Agent Jason Richards, then Eva Dubin.
So will Dubin take the 5th for any questions. Imagine the cross!
Especially if the Gov bring up pics of evidence from the 2019 raid of the NY mansion that clearly had a disc which had a hand written label with her daughter's name on it and the date of 2012.
Oh yes the image of #Epstein biting a toddler's bottom that was in Palm Beach.
Before you scream cover up - this case is about #GhislaineMaxwell's part in the trafficking conspiracy. The organisation of it and her role in that. Not the abuse by #epstein.
So #GhislaineMaxwell's team doesn't think #evaDubin is a hostile witness?
This case is insane.
Pic from the 2019 FBI raid of #epstein's NY mansion.
Also note, #GhislaineMaxwell will also be facing court at a later date for her perjury and forfeiture charges her team managed to get separated from the trafficking charges.
The perjury charges relate to her two 2016 depositions made in the civil case for defamation.
This case was brought against her by #VirginiaGiuffre.
GM settled but her depositions are pure ego, spite and fire.
I recorded these two depositions if you want to listen.
Questioning Agent Richards is Jeffrey Pagliuca, #GhislaineMaxwell's long term attorney.
He represented her in the above mentioned civil defamation case. He and his colleague Laura Menninger are both from Colorado.
Interesting that it was Pag warned the Agent not to say the MV's surname.
Unusual for Pag who has been doxing these survivors continually.
Short and sweet. That was the only question Pag asked Agent Richards.
Next up is another agent, Agent Amanda Young who was partnered with Detective Burns during the investigations.
Remember the books that Menninger grilled Annie Farmer about? Trying to insinuate that Annie wearing the boots after her alleged assault maybe meant that she wasn't assaulted or something ...
And now Pag does a redirect (this happens after the cross examination if the defence needs to clarify anything. It goes testimony, cross, then back to redirect if needed.)
Note, allegations have been raised by a survivor about Eva's qualifications.
Eva: I went to medical school in Stockholm, then UCLA. Then Lenox Hill Hospital in NYC.
Maxwell's lawyer: Did you know Mr. Epstein?
Eva: We dated off and on from 1983 until 1991.
Was this to be a doxing attempt? Or bringing up something that hasn't been mentioned in charges?
#Epstein's Black Book entries. 1997 for Glenn and the more widely shared Black Book stolen by Alfredo Rodriguez from the Palm Beach mansion in the 2000s for Eva.
Eva is shown photographs and flight records.
Matthew notes that the flight logs may not be considered judicial documents.
Break reading. A really good thread on jury selection and how people beyond our little Twitter sphere view the world.
Hint, they may not be as engaged with the media or news as Twitter peeps are or use the media in different ways.
And we are back. Redacted flight logs and Judge Nathan is making sure they are redacted for publication. There are already logs unredacted floating out there, so I'm thinking these are new and provided to the Gov by Rodgers.
She is in the 1997 book. Cape Town numbers so maybe South African?
Now questions about Sophie Biddle. A massage therapist now living in California.
She was brought up in questioning in week one.
Did she also marry a race car driver?
And now over the cross. Again GM's team made sure no slip of the tongue was made in regards to reading out names. A bit late considering their doxing this past fortnight.
Michelle a few months ago and at her wedding to Art Tatum.
Her older sister's entry in the Black Book. Shannon Married Dr Tom who she met in Stanley where he was listed at the time working as an ER doctor. He too ended up in the black book.
Both sisters still work and live in the area. And Michelle is still friends with Cimberly Espinosa on FB
Correct, now in Dallas. This is her sister Shannon and her Zorro Dr husband Tom.
Maxwell's lawyer pushing to have Nag's Head Pub witness testify on Monday. That's the 81yo UK witness.
Maybe he spent his day staring out his pub window at GM's house across the road noting who came and went.
Maxwell's lawyer: We want to put in property records about Stanhope Mews, too. They are self-authenticating.
US says its closing will be 2-3 hours, rebuttal 45 minutes. Maxwell's closing will not be longer. Then charge.
Judge Nathan will give jury shorter lunch break too, to get it all in on Monday.
Then deliberation Tuesday, Wednesday & more if necessary.
Day 11 #GhislaineMaxwellTrial.
GM's def wants to bring 35 witnesses to court, including attorney's for the MVs, no doubt to push false memories but also to try and portray them as money hungry.
There will be character witnesses and other experts, but will her 'spouse' be there?
And will #GhislaineMaxwell take the stand?
Is her legal team confident in putting her on the stand to be cross examined?
Considering her behaviour in civil depositions under oath I suggest not.
She has a history of yelling and talking down to lawyers, including her own.
I recorded all her depositions done in 2016 in the civil defamation case (she settled) brought against her by Virginia Giuffre.
Listen to this ep for her outburst and thumping of tables. podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/jef…
Day 10 in the #GhislaineMaxwellTrial.
Court will kick off 30 minutes earlier today at 9am. No doubt due to yesterday's early end when a Gov attorney was ill.
So will #AnnieFarmer, MV2, take to the stand today?
Today is also a huge day for survivors of #PeterNygard the Finn Canadian fashion designer who is alleged to have sexually assaulted hundreds if not thousands of women from the 70s until Dec last year when he was arrested in Canada.
"Sexual assault victims in Medieval England faced similar challenges as they would today, says a researcher who studied 28 rape trials from 800 years ago."
Key to this is the extensive testimony of #Epstein's former Palm Beach manager, Juan Alessi.
The Gov also presents portions of #GhislaineMaxwell's own April 2016 deposition in the civil defamation case brought against her by Virginia Giuffre.
#GhislaineMaxwell clearly states in her deposition that exhibit 52 was a copy of a 'stolen' document, and the Gov contents this also validates the legitimacy of the exhibit.
On Nov 19 the Defence argued against the exhibit and the inclusion of Employee 1 to legitimize it.
Day 8: #GhislaineMaxwellTrial
Prosecutors have said that they may 'rest' their case at the end of this week.
There has been a lot of conjecture that means it's a show trial, along with many stating that the evidence will be destroyed.
What exactly does that mean?
Thread.
Oct 12 - a joint letter to Judge Nathan about the estimated length of the trial.
The Gov requested that jurors be available over the holiday break.
"The Government estimates that it would rest within four weeks from the start of the trial. That estimate is conservative"
That means that the Gov was making sure that all eventualities were covered. That jurors were chosen who could be there as long as needed. For testimony and a long deliberation if needed.
".. the Government anticipates that it
could rest as early as the third week of trial"
Will the defence be able to call Glassman to try and somehow link compensation for assaults by #epstein into proving that GM didn't abuse or traffic anyone?
Of course we know they just want to show survivors as money hungry
In other cases - #AlanDershowitz has been accused of allegedly withholding THOUSANDS of emails regarding #Epstein and others in discovery in the civil defamation case #VirginiaGiuffre brought against him. #Dershowitz
And in case you missed it, #Dersh has said he is really ill.