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Guest - @theliverdr Dr Abby Phillips, hepatologist, ie, a liver doctor.

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The space is in English.
Why liver health is important?
What does the liver do?

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Liver is the original detox, and it's like a traffic policeman.

The name comes from Old English "lifer." Formerly believed to be the body's blood-producing organ; in medieval times it rivaled the heart as the supposed seat of love and passion.

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Drug-induced liver injury.

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Drug-induced liver injury is a diagnosis of exclusion. The hepatologist has to do some detective work to rule out all the more common causes of liver injury - which basically presents as jaundice - then come to the drugs that the patient is taking.

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ATT - anti-tuberculosis therapy is the commonest cause of drug-induced liver injury in 🇮🇳

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Herbal medicines, including medicines that are made from herbs and traditional herbal medicines - and how to test how they affect the liver.

To put it very shortly, it's a very complex and difficult issue.

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We, ie, the medical fraternity in 🇮🇳 is taking things for granted and not taking responsibility for banning drugs that are proven to be toxic.

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India does not have a science watchdog. 💯

It is NOT the IMA.

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"Among hundreds (more than 600) of my patients with cirrhosis, ie, damaged livers, I have not found a single case of COVID vaccine induced problems." - Dr Abby.

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What is faecal microbial transplant, ie, stool transplant?

Dr Abby's focus of research.

Started in traditional Chinese medicine.

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Clostridium difficile infections in ICU setting, and how faecal transplant was found to be useful for that

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Healthy donor stool transplant can reduce complications of alcoholic liver disease, especially hepatic encephalopathy, and reduce repetitive bacterial infections.

Fighting bacteria with bacteria, like, fire with fire.

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Grade 1 (or mild) fatty liver. What is the significance?

A very relevant question, especially from a radiologist's point of view.

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Fibroscan, shear-wave elastography - that measures liver stiffness in NASH - non-alcoholic steatohepatitis (fatty liver).

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MR elastography is more sensitive and specific than ultrasound elastography. But costlier, and more time consuming.

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Chemophobia. Confusing actual disease progression and adverse effects of medicines.

Prime example. I've been taking insulin for 15 years for diabetes, and because of that my kidneys are damaged.

Actually long-standing diabetes has damaged the kidneys.

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Ultrasound elastography screening for fatty liver is quite prevalent in TamilNadu, both in govt and pvt sector hospitals. - @sylvitweets

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How effective is keelanelli (கீழாநெல்லி) - @sylvitweets

@vetriyoga TN govt service Siddha physician replying.

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Clinical conundrum - @mercedezlad - is asking a specific doubt.

Using this forum as a sounding board 😜

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Dr Abby is explaining about keelanelli

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If you have jaundice, is it a medical cause or a surgical cause?

If medical, have you identified the cause properly before treating.

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Smoking + alcohol. How does that affect the liver?

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Global liver disease burden vs alcohol consumption.

Moderate alcohol consumption, about 8 units per week - reduces heart attack risk, but it increases overall risk for cancers in multiple organs.

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Alcoholic liver disease is dependent also on your genetic risk of getting the disease, not just quantity and duration of alcohol consumption.

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Now talking about - liver transplantation

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Reasons for transplant:
Acute liver failure one important reason. Patient has to fit some criteria.
Cirrhosis - based on stage of the disease.

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MELD score for chronic liver disease, to stratify patients for transplant.

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Organ donation.

National systems of cadaver donation. We have a pretty good system in TamilNadu.

But we don't have a national, centralised system.

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OOOH. Controversy.

Malayalam movies being attacked. 😜

But, seriously. This is actually busting myths and rumours about organ donations, especially liver donation.

In Kerala they do only living donation.

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Cadaver donation programme in #Tamilnadu - the main man behind it, @AmalJos95950131 - speaking now.

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The importance of living liver donors.

The liver is one of the few organs that can regenerate throughout your life. So if you donate (part of) your liver, you don't lose anything. You are saving a life.

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apologies for the lapse in live-tweeting. connectivity issues. sorry.
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Giving excessive paracetamol in kids with high fever is dangerous.

Paracetamol actually disguises fever pattern and may impede diagnosis.

Paracetamol does not cause long-lasting liver injury. It is ONLY temporary damage, and only when it is abused.

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OMG!!

I'm trying to live-tweet this #medtwitter #TwitterSpaces and I'm now confused if I'm covering a medical conference.

Dr Abby @theliverdr is adipozhi hitting sixers out of the ground scientifically.

Lay people who are listening, please excuse. 😜
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I don't know who names these drugs.

The bleddy names of the newer MABs.

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There is no role for vitamin supplementation in COVID.

There's a video in English in @theliverdr's timeline that explains this.

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The Indian population is the best to start any kind of nonsense business in. Our people are the most gullible.

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I'm assuming this is Dr Abby @theliverdr's video explaining the uselessness of vitamin supplements for COVID
I have a big problem with proton pump inhibitors - pantoprazole, omeprazole, rabiprazole, etc.

Please consult a hepatologist.

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Ok. We're concluding with @sylvitweets, medical gastroenterologist's comments.

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On a personal note, this was one of the best medical spaces that I've attended after #TwitterSpaces began.

Kudos @drnaveenpc for the effort. Many thanks Dr Abby @theliverdr for your time and expert opinion.

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