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So what you're saying is that without the threat of a deity, you would indulge whatever depravity popped into your brain.
Meanwhile, I don't believe in a god and yet my morality guides me that murder is wrong.
Despite being given ample reasons.
Like stupidity.
Dennis.
Meanwhile, I don't believe in a god and yet my morality guides me that murder is wrong.
Despite being given ample reasons.
Like stupidity.
Dennis.
You hold your beliefs, you do you. Cool.
All I'm saying is, the idea of "no morality without god" is objectively incorrect. Lots of us don't believe, and lots of us behave with solid moral convictions.
We don't even need to be threatened with Hell not to be assholes. AMAZING!
All I'm saying is, the idea of "no morality without god" is objectively incorrect. Lots of us don't believe, and lots of us behave with solid moral convictions.
We don't even need to be threatened with Hell not to be assholes. AMAZING!
Morality, or even the basic empathy to feel the hurt of hurting someone else, is its own thing. It's separate from religion.
You can not believe and be good and kind. You can believe devoutly and murder someone (sometimes even in the name of your deity, no less).
You can not believe and be good and kind. You can believe devoutly and murder someone (sometimes even in the name of your deity, no less).
I've known good folks and assholes. Some were atheists, some were believers, and they fell into both categories.
If you're advertising that without a god you'd do whatever you want to whoever you want, you have a deeply fucked up brain.
If you're advertising that without a god you'd do whatever you want to whoever you want, you have a deeply fucked up brain.
"But then, morality is just like, *opinion,* man!"
Um. Yeah. It is. You have to choose to be a decent person, and you have to choose why.
Even if you believe in a faith, there's nothing stopping you from acting against your morality while on earth except your own choices.
Um. Yeah. It is. You have to choose to be a decent person, and you have to choose why.
Even if you believe in a faith, there's nothing stopping you from acting against your morality while on earth except your own choices.
And to blow you mind even wider, Dennis: not only do you have to choose to abide a moral framework, you have to *interpret* that moral framework.
There are a dozen or more interpretations of just Christianity.
Which one is the correct one? Which one reflects God's morals?
There are a dozen or more interpretations of just Christianity.
Which one is the correct one? Which one reflects God's morals?
Which denomination has nailed down God's ideology? Who has the Jesus Seal of Approval ™?
Or ... better idea ... be kind. Be empathetic. Do your best. Know you're going to fail even when you try not to. But try. Try to be a decent person.
I don't know God, but that seems right.
Or ... better idea ... be kind. Be empathetic. Do your best. Know you're going to fail even when you try not to. But try. Try to be a decent person.
I don't know God, but that seems right.
Empathy and altruism are not only vital components to a solid moral framework, they're the survival mechanisms that allowed our species to stop slinging our own crap at one another and be people.
Rational adults go with, "Is this hurting anyone? No? Okay, you do you, then. Yes? Well, you can't live here and do that."
And the irrational ones, well ...
🎵The Inquisition, what a show!🎵
🎵The Inquisition, here we go!🎵
And the irrational ones, well ...
🎵The Inquisition, what a show!🎵
🎵The Inquisition, here we go!🎵
