Prof Euraque: Yes.
AUSA: What is the role of the president of that body?
Euraque: President of the Congress has enormous power.
AUSA: How is the position filled?
Euraque: The members are elected, then prez picked
Q: Were you a high official of the government in opposition to the party currently in power?
A: Yes, from 2006 to 2009.
Euraque: My college loaned me to the government of Honduras to administer --
Q: You served Zelaya's party, right?
Euraque: As center left in the Latin American tradition.
Q: Is it fair to say that in 2006 to 2009 the Liberal Party controlled the police, etc?
A: Until the coup.
A: He [Tony] was elected in 2013.
Q: They charged you with indoctrinating Hondurans in --
A: No. It was about the historical site. I was removed.
Euraque: Some of my staff.
Q: You had to leave Honduras after you were fired?
A: I had to return to my job at Trinity College.
A: And other places.
Q: The squibs said you were a participant in those political event, correct?
A: Which ones?
Q: You later said, "A collusion of a corrupt judiciary and state"? Am I quoting you correctly?
Q: And later you supported the Libre Party?
A: I don't know what you mean.
Euraque: My vote is confidential.
Q: Does it refresh you memory that you gave an interview with The Nation, and a podcast still available on the Internet?
A: I don't recall.
Q: And who won?
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AUSA: Which party in Honduras are most of your relatives associated with?
Euraque: The National Party.
Euraque: The press in the international hotel in Tegucigalpa, I was there, I heard from them and international observers about fraud --
Tony H's lawyers object.
Ardon: Yes. He told me a shipment was coming in with his stamp T.H. on it.
AUSA: Did you ever see Tony Hernandez armed?
Ardon: All the time
Ardon: Yes, in 2013 in El Paraiso.
AUSA: Was Tony Hernandez there?
AUSA: Were payments made?
AUSA: Did you see the money?
Ardon: Yes. It was brought in from the car in plastic bags. We counted it.
AUSA: How cocaine did you move into the US?
Ardon: I don't understand the question.
Ardon: Around some 250 tons.
AUSA: Did your relatives participate?
Ardon: Hugo Ardon, Lionel Leiva...
AUSA: What about brothers in law?
Ardon: Yes... one was at the meeting with El Chapo.
Ardon: I would buy from him.. He would provide me security... We started working together in 2004.
AUSA: When did you stop?
Ardon: When Blanco was arrested.
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Q: Were you engaged in cocaine trafficking activities with the Valle brothers?
Q: Did you sell cocaine to Guatemalans? Including Otto Salguero?
Ardon: El Chapo Guzman.
Q: You've mentioned him a few times today. When did you meet him?
Ardon: First in 2007.
Q: How many face to face meetings with Chapo?
Ardon: We provided transportation to him and sold cocaine to him.
Q: Are you familiar with Televisa? Did Chapo use the name of that media network for drug trafficking?
Q: When did you learn about Chapo's Televisa trucks?
Ardon: In 2007.
Ardon: Chapo Guzman told me.
Q: What did Chapo say about where that cocaine was going?
Ardon: Into the United States.
Q: In what years?
Ardon: 2005, 2009, 2013 and 2017.
Q: What did you do to interfere with those elections?
Ardon: I would pay bribes.
Ardon: The largest was $2 million.
Q: Did you pay bribes more than once?
Ardon: Yes. To mayors and members of Congress.
Q: To what party?
Ardon: The National Party of Honduras.
Q: Did he mentioned Juan Orlando Hernandez?
Ardon: Yes, Pepe Lobo said he would become president and Juan Orlando Hernandez would become president of the Congress. He said he needed $2 million.
Ardon: Don Pepe Lobo, me and Juan Orlando Hernandez. Lobo said he had received my $1 million.
Q: Did Juan Orlando Hernandez hear that said?
Alex Ardon: Yes.
Q: What did Pepe Lobo say about Hugo Ardon?
Alex Ardon: That the position that would be given to Hugo would be the highway director
Ardon: Yes. Pepe Lobo told me if the National Party won I would be protected in drug trafficking such that the prosecutor's office would no investigate me.
I told Tony Hernandez I was receiving drugs in three departments...
Ardon: Yes. He told me I should bribe three members of Congress in Copan and get them to vote for him to become president of the Congress.
Ardon: Yes. I told him the three members of Congress were doing to vote for him. He told me the protection I had discussed, for drug trafficking, was going to be provided, for me and my family.
A: Yes. It is a black helicopter.
Q: How often did you speak with the defendant about these shipments of cocaine? Who else attended?
A: Mario Calix, Melvin Pinto... Hugo and myself
Q: Bring up Government Exhibit 105, at the top. Is that Mario Calix?
Q: And Exhibit 111, is this the "Primo" you mentioned earlier?
Ardon: It changed from helicopters to boats.
Q: Did Tony Hernandez explain why?
Ardon: Yes. He said with boats we could traffic a larger amount of cocaine, more than with helicopters.
Q: When you moved it by truck, was there security? How provided it?
Ardon: Tony Hernandez and I did.
Q: Who participated?
Ardon: Tony Hernandez' cousin.
Q: In 2011 did you sell cocaine to Chapo Guzman using the Televisa trucks?
Q: Who else was involved?
Ardon: Tony Hernandez, Noel and Victor Blanco
Q: Were the Valle brothers also involved?
Ardon: With rifles.
Q: And this Primo, how many were with him in the security detail?
Ardon: Three cars, with four people in each.
Q: Did you know where they worked, from how they were dressed?
Ardon: With the police. The national police.
AUSA: And then what happened?
Ardon: He was killed.
Ardon: Yes. In Guatemala.
AUSA: Who else was there?
Ardon: Otto, Don Amado, Chapo and I were there...
AUSA: Does Exh 115 show Orellana?
AUSA: In 2012 with Chapo, did you speak about Orellana?
Ardon: Chapo Guzman said Orellana had stolen one shipment of cocaine from him and would be taking over the Guatemala - Honduras border
Ardon: I told Chapo that Orellana would not take over the border because I was going to be talking with Pepe Lobo to provide me protection on the border.
AUSA: And what did Tony Hernandez say?
Ardon: Tony Hernandez told me that in order to get that security, Pepe Lobo was the only one who could
Ardon: He sent two trucks to the border...
AUSA: Did you see the soldiers on the border? How many?
Ardon: Around 120 soldiers.
AUSA: How were they armed?
Ardon: Bazookas and M16s.
AUSA: Did Tony H. say anything about extradition in 2012?
Ardon: He told me he would not be extradited to the US.
AUSA: Did Tony H. explain why he was not going to supply you with cocaine anymore?
Ardon: He told me he was going to run, and his brother for President
Ardon: $50,000 per trip.
AUSA: Who provided the pilots?
Ardon: Tony Hernandez.
AUSA: Did he provide security? How?
Ardon: He provided radar to make sure copters weren't stopped
AUSA: Where there any problems with the drug worker you called El Chino?
Ardon: Yes, Chino got arrested.
AUSA: And what happened to him?
Ardon: He was murdered.
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