I hope to be proven wrong but as I’ve said before I do not believe that @coinbase@krakenfx@binance etc. are going to re-list or un-suspend #XRP until the @SEC_Enforcement comes out and issues a no-action declaration or we get clarity from the SDNY Court.
Let me explain how the SEC Attorney misled the Court when answering Judge Netburn’s question regarding whether anyone selling #XRP would be violating Section 5 of the Securities Act.
This will also help me prepare for our brief (due in 8 days). 😥😫
Attorney Tenreiro said that
Section 4 exemptions would apply and therefore retail holders would not be in violation. Not true. If the purpose and intent is to have #XRP distributed by purchasers into a secondary market no exemption applies under Section 4, as Tenreiro suggested to Magistrate Netburn.
The Telegram case tells us all we need to know. Judge Castel found that Telegram’s offers and sales of the #Grams represented an ongoing violation of Section 5 and must be enjoined before reaching public distribution.
Basically, if the digital asset (#Gram or #XRP) is going to
end up being sold to the public, Section 4 exemptions do not apply. This isn’t my interpretation. Let me quote the Judge:
“When distribution reaches the public, the SEC can invoke jurisdiction and claim that the public needs the protection of the Securities Act.”
So the exchanges would not have an exemption. If you or I intended to sell our #XRP, we wouldn’t be exempt, because we could be called an “issuer” because as Judge Castel wrote
“The term issuer means every person who issues or proposes to issue any security.”
Just in case
some of you don’t believe I’m correct and don’t believe “issuer” could mean anyone - here is what Attorney Solomon said to J. Netburn after Tenreiro said what he said:
“So in theory, Judge, each domestic sale could be a violation and that would include, contrary to what Mr.
Tenreiro said, not just #Ripple’s affiliates, but any retail holder or any party, if there is any intent to distribute the security further.”
Hence, the exchanges are not exempt under Section 4. Hell, we aren’t exempt under Section 4.
This case is bigger than many realize.
I will be thrilled to be wrong if one of the exchanges that delisted or suspended #XRP found the courage to begin trading it again. I hope they all do.
But, our fight is in the SDNY Court. I just wish the other Cryptos realized that @Ripple and #XRPHolders are fighting for all.
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@HesterPeirce was interviewed by @ThinkingCrypto1 and said that she was trying to get people at the @SEC_News to stop thinking about the token as a security but instead on how the token was being packaged and sold.
I tweeted out, in disbelief, saying “that’s only been the law for 75 years.”
The Supreme Court in #Howey didn’t conclude that the oranges 🍊 were Securities, but it was the “scheme” and the totality of circumstances surrounding the transactions between the parties that was held
to be an investment contract. But it’s not just the #Howey case that has made it crystal clear that the token itself IS NOT a security.
“Clayton’s family gets millions of dollars in annual dividends from WMB Holding”
His family got $4 million per year in dividends. To receive that much 💰 in dividends is equivalent to owning a $200 million in stocks that pay 2% in dividends.
Clayton’s wife is Gretchen Butler Clayton. The B in WMB stands for Butler. WMB owns CSC. Clayton’s father-in-law is Daniel Butler, who served as CSC’s CEO from 1975-1998. WMB and CSC share the same address.
Multiple other units of Goldman Sachs are using the same address.
Clayton’s wife was a V.P. at Goldman Sachs for 17 years when Clayton became SEC Chairman.
“There are thousands of businesses using CSC as their registered agent and using CSC’s address as their legal address.”
Leiming Chen, like Hinman, was a partner at Simpson Thacher.
Leiming Chen served in the firm’s Hong Kong office, focusing on SEC-registered offerings.
A client of Simpson Thacher is Neil Shen.
Neil Shen is founding and managing partner of Sequoia China.
Neil Shen put forth at the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference the recommendation that Hong Kong create its own stable coin, which can be used for cross-border payments between China, Japan and South Korea.
If the @SEC had sued only #Ripple, then it would be a strict liability case and all the @SEC would need to prove is
that #XRP was a security when #Ripple sold it. No need to prove any level of intent or state of mind. But by alleging that Brad and Chris aided and abetted Ripple in selling unregistered securities, the @SEC must prove:
“they knew or recklessly disregarded” that Ripple’s sales
First, I already believed that #XRPHolders meet the legal standard to successfully intervene. If you objectively read the 4 page pre-motion
letter (or formal motion) it’s hard to deny that we meet the 4 factors for intervention (even the haters should struggle to say we don’t). That doesn’t mean we will win the motion. The SEC will likely say that we aren’t necessary in the case because its not claiming that the #XRP
that we hold are securities and will therefore try its best to keep us out of the case.
Based on what was said, by both sides, at this hearing, however, helps prove that #XRPHolders’ interests need to be represented during the prosecution of the case.
In the Pre-motion Letter to Judge Torres we state:
Today’s XRP is a Government Recognized Form of Currency and is Utilized
by XRP Holders Completely Independent of Ripple or its Executives
If allowed to intervene, XRP Holders will demonstrate to the Court that XRP is used
around the world and in the United States as currency. Six years ago, the Financial Crimes
Enforcement Network (“FinCEN”) entered into an agreement with Ripple that XRP would be considered virtual currency and its use would be registered exclusively with FinCEN, not the SEC.
Afterwards, foreign nations started agreeing with the U.S. Government’s 2015 currency
classification of XRP, and Japan, Switzerland, the U.K. and the UAE all declared XRP as non-
securities. Since that 2015 designation as virtual currency, the use cases of XRP have exploded.