#XRPHolders 🆚 @SEC_News Thread:

@HesterPeirce was interviewed by @ThinkingCrypto1 and said that she was trying to get people at the @SEC_News to stop thinking about the token as a security but instead on how the token was being packaged and sold.
I tweeted out, in disbelief, saying “that’s only been the law for 75 years.”

The Supreme Court in #Howey didn’t conclude that the oranges 🍊 were Securities, but it was the “scheme” and the totality of circumstances surrounding the transactions between the parties that was held
to be an investment contract. But it’s not just the #Howey case that has made it crystal clear that the token itself IS NOT a security.

#BTC, #ETH, #XRP, #Gold, #Soybeans, #copper, #coffee and any other product or commodity can be marketed, packaged, sold and distributed
as part of an investment contract. The @SEC_Enforcement lawyers have relied on and referenced the recent #Telegram case as an example for the SDNY Court to follow. I AGREE!

@CryptoLawUS has uploaded for your review the two Opinions and Orders entered by Judge Castel in the
#Telegram case. I encourage you to read them. After reading Telegram 1 & 2, you will get even more pissed off at what the SEC refuses to acknowledge.

Remember, in #Telegram, the SEC sought a preliminary injunction (and won) preventing #Telegram from using the funds raised
by selling #Grams to build the TON Blockchain. #Telegram was very much like @VitalikButerin’s initial fundraising scheme. 👇#Telegram was a pure ICO scheme. As the Court found, the #Grams were sold to VCs and high net worth individuals or hedge funds.

Comparing #Grams to #XRP
would be like comparing 🍊s to ⚽️ and 🏈. Let’s review excerpts from the #Telegram case which the SEC loves to compare against @Ripple.

“the security in this case is not simply the #Gram, which is little more than alphanumeric cryptographic sequence.”

That seems pretty clear ImageImage
Maybe the SEC disagrees and that decision isn’t clear enough to help @HesterPeirce convince her fellow commissioners and prosecutors that the Token itself - IS NOT the security.

If unclear, they should read Judge Castel’s Second Opinion and Order in the #Telegram case.👇 Image
J. Castel (from the same SDNY as J. Torres) made it more clear:

“that the security was neither the Gram Purchase Agreement NOR the #Gram, but the entire scheme that comprised the Gram Purchase Agreements and the accompanying understandings and undertakings made by Telegram ...”
Yep, that’s right. In #Telegram, there was an actual Purchase Agreement that the investors signed - a CONTRACT (equal to half of the phrase: “investment contract”).

J. Castel said that the actual agreement, itself, wasn’t a security let alone the mere alphanumeric code (#Gram).
But the SEC refuses to acknowledge what the law is. I’ve made it clear from day one that I’m not a Securities law expert, but I can read.

The SEC keeps making a big deal about speculative investing. I encourage them to re-read Howey.

The very next sentence following the test. Image
Considering that the SEC was specifically warned by Grundfest that the exchanges would delist or suspend #XRP, the SEC could have made it clear to the exchanges that it wasn’t claiming #XRP the token was a security per se. They refused.

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When we filed our Writ of Mandamus, they could’ve come out and made it clear. They refused. Instead, they blamed the exchanges.

When Judge Netburn told the SEC lawyer that according to his argument every person in the world selling #XRP was in violation of Section 5 (👇) of the Image
Securities Act, they could’ve made it clear. They didn’t. Instead, they claimed Section 4 exclusions would “likely” apply. But Section 4 ONLY applies IF ITS A SECURITY!

When we filed our Pre-motion letter regarding intervention, the SEC, in its reply letter, could’ve made it
clear that it isn’t claiming that our #XRP is a security. They refused. Instead, they claimed sovereign immunity against us; called us speculative investors, which they claimed proves Ripple sold securities (still trying to figure out what that nonsensical sentence means); ImageImage
misled the Court by claiming that I said if we get #XRP re-listed the price will double and then we can sell for a profit (I’ve already proven that’s a lie); and, again, blamed the exchanges.

The law is clear. In 1946 it was made clear in #Howey. In 2020 (this time last year)
it was made clear in #Telegram.
The SEC cannot in good faith claim that the Token #XRP is inherently an investment contract, and thus, a security.

They can try and claim that when #Ripple sold or distributed #XRP, at specific times, it constituted an investment contract.
But at least acknowledge the law and quit focusing only on winning the case at all costs. Maybe, just maybe, the SEC could also start focusing on protecting investors and users of #XRP.

Until that happens, the SEC will continue to be on trial.

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11 Apr
#XRP AND #EXCHANGES

I hope to be proven wrong but as I’ve said before I do not believe that @coinbase @krakenfx @binance etc. are going to re-list or un-suspend #XRP until the @SEC_Enforcement comes out and issues a no-action declaration or we get clarity from the SDNY Court.
Let me explain how the SEC Attorney misled the Court when answering Judge Netburn’s question regarding whether anyone selling #XRP would be violating Section 5 of the Securities Act.

This will also help me prepare for our brief (due in 8 days). 😥😫

Attorney Tenreiro said that
Section 4 exemptions would apply and therefore retail holders would not be in violation. Not true. If the purpose and intent is to have #XRP distributed by purchasers into a secondary market no exemption applies under Section 4, as Tenreiro suggested to Magistrate Netburn.
Read 9 tweets
4 Apr
“Clayton’s family gets millions of dollars in annual dividends from WMB Holding”

His family got $4 million per year in dividends. To receive that much 💰 in dividends is equivalent to owning a $200 million in stocks that pay 2% in dividends.

wallstreetonparade.com/2018/01/wall-s…
Clayton’s wife is Gretchen Butler Clayton. The B in WMB stands for Butler. WMB owns CSC. Clayton’s father-in-law is Daniel Butler, who served as CSC’s CEO from 1975-1998. WMB and CSC share the same address.

Multiple other units of Goldman Sachs are using the same address.
Clayton’s wife was a V.P. at Goldman Sachs for 17 years when Clayton became SEC Chairman.

“There are thousands of businesses using CSC as their registered agent and using CSC’s address as their legal address.”
Read 5 tweets
4 Apr
Does China 🇨🇳 and/or Alipay have any interest related to Ripple or #XRP?

Asking for a friend.

Previously, I tweeted about Clayton and Hinman being on the SEC application for Alibaba’s IPO.

Let’s look into another Lawyer who appears on that @SEC filing document:

Leiming Chen
Leiming Chen, like Hinman, was a partner at Simpson Thacher.

Leiming Chen served in the firm’s Hong Kong office, focusing on SEC-registered offerings.

A client of Simpson Thacher is Neil Shen.

Neil Shen is founding and managing partner of Sequoia China. Image
Neil Shen put forth at the Chinese People’s Political Consultative Conference the recommendation that Hong Kong create its own stable coin, which can be used for cross-border payments between China, Japan and South Korea.

theblockcrypto.com/linked/66066/s…
Read 4 tweets
1 Apr
An @SEC_Enforcement 🆚 @Ripple Thread:

The most important decision a prosecutor makes is at the very beginning when he decides who to charge and what to charge.

@MrFreshTime showed us the video of Clayton favoring going after the individual executives and not just the company.
I called it a bullying tactic.
When I was @on_the_chain recently and weeks ago I said charging @bgarlinghouse and @chrislarsensf would prove to be a mistake.

If the @SEC had sued only #Ripple, then it would be a strict liability case and all the @SEC would need to prove is
that #XRP was a security when #Ripple sold it. No need to prove any level of intent or state of mind. But by alleging that Brad and Chris aided and abetted Ripple in selling unregistered securities, the @SEC must prove:

“they knew or recklessly disregarded” that Ripple’s sales
Read 14 tweets
21 Mar
I HAVE READ THE TRANSCRIPT FROM FRIDAY’S HEARING in

@SEC_Enforcement 🆚 @Ripple @bgarlinghouse and @chrislarsensf

My honest thoughts:

First, I already believed that #XRPHolders meet the legal standard to successfully intervene. If you objectively read the 4 page pre-motion
letter (or formal motion) it’s hard to deny that we meet the 4 factors for intervention (even the haters should struggle to say we don’t). That doesn’t mean we will win the motion. The SEC will likely say that we aren’t necessary in the case because its not claiming that the #XRP
that we hold are securities and will therefore try its best to keep us out of the case.

Based on what was said, by both sides, at this hearing, however, helps prove that #XRPHolders’ interests need to be represented during the prosecution of the case.

I won’t spell it out
Read 20 tweets
20 Mar
In the Pre-motion Letter to Judge Torres we state:

Today’s XRP is a Government Recognized Form of Currency and is Utilized
by XRP Holders Completely Independent of Ripple or its Executives

If allowed to intervene, XRP Holders will demonstrate to the Court that XRP is used
around the world and in the United States as currency. Six years ago, the Financial Crimes
Enforcement Network (“FinCEN”) entered into an agreement with Ripple that XRP would be considered virtual currency and its use would be registered exclusively with FinCEN, not the SEC.
Afterwards, foreign nations started agreeing with the U.S. Government’s 2015 currency
classification of XRP, and Japan, Switzerland, the U.K. and the UAE all declared XRP as non-
securities. Since that 2015 designation as virtual currency, the use cases of XRP have exploded.
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