Andrew Marr: "Is someone who thinks that only women have a cervix welcome in the Labor Party?"
Keir Starmer: "We need to have a mature, respectful debate about trans rights."
The question was about WOMEN.
Starmer continues: "Bear in mind that the trans community are among the most marginalised and abused communities."
We will *never* have the respectful, mature debate about trans rights that Starmer claims to want while politicians are unable even to utter the word 'woman'.
This is a women's rights issue - at stake is who should access women's rights, spaces, provisions and on what basis. Responding to questions about women with a lecture on trans oppression is the problem, not the solution. Thank you @AndrewMarr9 for pursuing this. #WomenMatter
Marr: Is it transphobic to say "Only women have a cervix?"
Starmer: It is something that shouldn't be said. It is not right.
Starmer's respectful debate rules out women's right to name our biological, embodied reality. And he wonders why we're angry. #Marr#LabourConference2021
Starmer: "I am very concerned that this debate is conducted in a proper way in which proper views are expressed." What are those proper views? Do they include rational, evidence-based arguments about where and why sex matters? #marr#LabourConference2021 sex-matters.org/#
If we can't say that only women have cervixes, what else is ruled out of Starmer's 'mature debate'? Can we name lesbians as same-sex attracted? Or is that included in what "shouldn't be said"? #marr#LabourConference2021
What else is ruled out of Starmer's 'proper' debate? Can we name lesbians as same-sex attracted? Can we argue that rapists who identify as women should not be in women's prisons? Can we ask that the same-sex exceptions in the Equality Act be applied? Or is that also proscribed?
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@UKLabour MPs really need to get to grips with a thorough understanding of the Equality Act 2010 and single-sex exemptions @Keir_Starmer. We suggest a starting point would be @EHRC guidance issued July 2018 #SexNotGender#SexMatters
@UKLabour MPs' understanding of EA2010 would benefit from this excellent overview "The single sex and separate sex exceptions in the Equality Act 2010" It explains current misunderstandings re single-sex exemptions wrongly promoted by @stonewalluk as law. sex-matters.org/wp-content/upl…
@UKLabour needs to urgently remind all Labour MPs that a High Court judge ruled that gender-critical beliefs fall under 2010 Equality Act protected characteristics & are a genuine & important philosophical position that deserve to be protected. linkedin.com/pulse/forstate…#SexMatters
@SadiqKhan says "One of the things about the Labour Party is it’s a chance to debate, discuss, have disagreement in a respectful way". That's not reality for those arguing for women's rights in @UKLabour today. standard.co.uk/news/uk/rosie-…
Respectful discussion must be based on credible, robust evidence. When @SadiqKhan irresponsibly uses discredited statistics on suicide as though they're established fact he's part of the problem - creating a climate where discussion is impossible. transgendertrend.com/the-suicide-my…
@Womans_Place_UK are still waiting for a response from to their letter (signed by 4k people) asking for an explanation of the removal of @polblonde from her role. How about it, @SadiqKhan@SophieKLinden? Respectful discussion requires engagement.
Time to end the silence on women's rights. A thread. #DontBeADavey
This morning @AndrewMarr9 asked @EdwardJDavey repeatedly "What is wrong with the phrase woman - adult human female?". Davey couldn't even bring himself to say the word 'woman' in response.
Asked about a real woman in his party - @Nat_freespeech who's been banned from standing for any LibDem position - Davey made no response. Still he could only repeat the thought-terminating cliches and mantras taught to him by Stonewall. crowdjustice.com/case/natalie-b…
This is what erasure looks like. Asked a question about women, or a question about a particular woman, too many politicians dissemble and take refuge in cliches about trans rights. The language we use to name ourselves is being lost, and with it, the ability to discuss our lives.
Andrew Marr: "What's wrong with this phrase? Woman - adult human female?" Ed Davey: "LibDems believe that trans rights are really important because trans people are some of the most discriminated against in our society."
The question was about WOMEN.
Marr re-states his question "what's wrong with woman- adult human female?"
Davey: "I've made it clear what our position is on trans rights, no-one can criticise me for that".
Bampots who can't even say the word 'woman' should not be in politics.
Davey goes on to talk about the 'toxic' debate. It's not a culture war that has toxified this debate - it's the misrepresentation of anyone wanting to talk about women's rights, and shouting us down as bigots and transphobes.
'Hoyle said: “Parliamentarians, who have been elected to speak up for their constituents, should be able to attend their own party conference without fear of harm. Too many people have been targeted for their opinion or the office they hold. In order to... thetimes.co.uk/article/703159…
..protect democracy, we need to ensure those participating can do so without threats of intimidation.”...(Duffield) believes we should be worried that so many young females are turning their backs on being a woman to become non-binary.
“Why are women so desperate to divorce...
...themselves from everything they associate with being female?” she said. “Why are they so uncomfortable? Why is it such a terrible place to be? These are questions that need answering and need to be discussed sensibly. It certainly rings massive alarm bells for people like me..
'De Cordova was vilified for meeting feminists who’ve formed the Labour Women’s Declaration on sex-based rights & for declining to address Stonewall’s conference fringe meeting..
Starmer must choose a shadow equalities minister ready to defend women..... thetimes.co.uk/article/fd1ec9…
....Then he must defend her.
Because there’s a new political slogan in town: “If you don’t respect my sex, you can’t expect to get my X" '
Well said @VictoriaPeckham
We just took a look at @BarrySheerman's twitter. His tweets frequently get fewer than 10 likes, and it's unusual for them to get to 100. His support tweet for @RosieDuffield1 is on 3.9k likes and rising. Politicians - there are votes in this. #WomenWontWheesht