Reddit has a secret tier of rules

where Reddit Administration pushes moderators to ban users & protect topics they want to controlled without the public knowing of it

thefederalist.com/2022/06/28/red… @andysignore @emzanotti @YellowFlashGuy @Grummz @BillyM2k @TheCriticalDri2 @erikkain
Heres the story of the banning of r/TumblrInAction & r/SocialJusticeInAction subreddits for letting users post “identity invalidation” content

thefederalist.com/2022/06/28/red… @TheQuartering @AbbyJohnson @ConceptualJames @neontaster @BlueBoxDave @chadfelixg @EthanVanSciver @realchrisrufo
on Monday, June 21rst
Redditors for the popular TumblrInAction & SocialJusticeInAction subreddits discovered the subs been banned for "promoting hate"
#reddit @BoundingComics @BleedingFool @ggreenwald @GundamIsHere @ighaworth @davidharsanyi @isaac_schorr @miltimore79 @heckyessica
Tumblr In Action long been a target of the left

The Sub had been around for over a decade & was a popular & active destination on Reddit

w/ almost 500,000 fairly frequent users posting about dumb Tumblr content & stuff U might see on @libsoftiktok today
slate.com/podcasts/icymi…
Social Justice In Action was younger & smaller but in its own way successful

A place for folks of all political stripes to question out loud the modern social justice dogma & to sh*tpost about dumb stuff in the news
reddit.com/r/AgainstHateS… #reddit #censored @JackPosobiec
10 years is a long time on Reddit,

These subs allowed users to post anti-woke & often truthful, gender-critical content that pushed “identity invalidation”

Reddit’s victims employed free speech, thus popular & therefore had to go
thefederalist.com/2022/06/28/red… @SirajAHashmi @KEEMSTAR
As Alex “the Hatman,” a top TIA moderator & creator of SJIA shared w/ me & confirmed @FDRLST

6 months ago the mods received notifications from Reddit Admin to remove "hateful" anti-LGB content for unspecific reasons on the subs

See some of the receipts I can share below👇
biggest issue Reddit had was the subs allowed Redditors to post “identity invalidation”

or as Hatman told me “Basically, the idea that if we don’t affirm someone’s self-identity, we’re engaging in hate speech,” no matter how serious or silly it may be.

#reddit @katrosenfield
What Reddit was asking from the decade-old TIA & SJIA subs seemed preposterous to them,

The subs started as a way to dispute -among other things- trans & gender identity movements long before corporate media & culture war came on board

thefederalist.com/2022/06/28/red… @nickgillespie
Comparable to Reddit version of @libsoftiktok

a mix of run-of-the-mill conservative content, w/ a smattering of libertarian posts documenting crazy things “SJWs” would say

To allow free speech to thrive on complicated topics that couldn’t be discussed elsewhere humorously
For most of their run,
subs weren’t specifically about the trans issue

TIAs more full tilt on discussing detransitioning came after r/GenderCritical & r/LGBDropTheT got shut down in 2020

TIA became a haven for free speech & attracted folks who needed it
@SwipeWright @MiaCathell
“We were known for not banning people based on their genuinely-held opinions” Hartman said

“As a result, the number of posts about trans-identified people on TIA skyrocketed, & we were considered a ‘TERF-friendly sub’ by those who hated us”
thefederalist.com/2022/06/28/red… @brad_polumbo
Following this shock ban,
many moderators for other right-wing subs are worried

Reddit is signaling that no subreddit is safe

Conservative subs like r/PoliticalCompassMemes, r/conservative, or r/@jordanbpeterson could be next

@MattWalshBlog @benshapiro thefederalist.com/2022/06/28/red…
Now I know some of my leftwing readers are thinking,
these folks pushed hateful anti-trans posts & therefore deserve a ban,

Pls let me explain why this ban should worry all netizens & not just right-wingers

@QuillRobinson @QTRBlackGarrett @reddit_lies @robbysoave @RekietaLaw
Rules governing social media companies mean almost nothing

as YouTube demonetizing @TheActMan_YT for highlighting YouTubes ignorance of abuse on their platform shows

Doesnt matter what official rules are broken
Only matters if Big Tech wants someone gone
happywarrior.substack.com/p/actman
Social Media companies dont want users to know the actual rules that govern their sites

So its up to users to guess them

These "unknown laws" are an Orwellian way to govern the internet & a threat to EVERY user
@ZubyMusic @wesyang @bungarsargon @yashar @CathyYoung63 @megbasham
not commenting on the trans issue
thats beside the point

Reddit banned 2 popular subs w/ unofficial rules for "identity invalidation" a standard any user could be taken out for at any time for any reason

thefederalist.com/2022/06/28/red… @EsotericCD @bdomenech @bendreyfuss @kylenabecker
As for the r/TumblerInAction & r/SocialJusticeInAction mods

they stuck to their guns & leave w/ their heads held high
They also carry a warning:

“We simply enforced the global rules as written. We never compromised our values—we always allowed people to speak their genuinely-held opinions, as long as it didn’t cross over into actual, unironic bigotry."

#reddit @wil_da_beast630 @conor64 #truth
"When the admins told us to go further w/ their unwritten ‘identity invalidation’ rule, we refused, & its possible that refusal is what got us banned in the end. If it is, then we went out w/ our principles intact”

- the Hatman
thefederalist.com/2022/06/28/red… @charlescwcooke @erikkain

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