First, let me say that data on this has been a bit limited. But *IF* we do ultimately confirm there are more ApoB-48 (B48) than ApoB-100 (B100) in ASCVD plaque, it would be a very big deal.
Let's unpack...
2/ First, thanks to @TuckerGoodrich for pinging me on these pubs and pressing the discussion.
But also credit to @CaloriesProper on tweeting this a couple years ago (I missed it then)
To understand why this would be so important if true, some review...
3/ B48 and B100s are the major proteins on chylomicrons (CMs) and VLDLs, respectively.
CMs mostly carry lipids from the small intestine to the bloodstream (lipids consumed), VLDL mostly carry lipids from storage; predominantly from adipose stores.
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4/ However -- there's been some recent shaking up of this assumption.
For example, there appears to be some "repurposed" of B48 by the liver to send out as VLDL instead of B100 (per study from above)
There's also some other notables I won't cover here.
5/ Regardless, all sources agree B100 lipoproteins comprise well over 90% of the total betalipoproteins in circulation.
Thus, conversely, B48 lipoproteins comprise well under 10%.
6/ So given this, why wouldn't plaques reflect a similar composition to that of the bloodstream?
Given the prevailing Response to Retention hypothesis, we'd expect random infiltration of betalipoproteins, which would certainly favor the B100 linage.
7/ It actually gets odder still when considering scale.
The long held assumption is that LDL is particularly atherogenic due to its smaller size for infiltration compared to larger particles. But CM and CM remnants are of the largest particles, each with B48 (where LDL is B100)
8/ Lastly, I have to draw focus to the fact that where these particles are intact, they are TG-poor.
It's speculated this might have occurred postmortem.
... But what if it wasn't?
9/ I continue to speculate the endocytose-ing of betalipoproteins by endothelial cells could be relevant for the immune response with respect to macrophages. I have a few different hypotheses on this, but active TG usage is one, which is why I'm very interested in its depletion.
10/ Regardless, I certainly think this is an area worth confirming with further research. It definitely opens up a lot more questions than answers if it proved true B48 outnumbered B100 in these plaques.
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#Me: Couldn’t it also be possible that triglyceride rich LDL are ultimately the result of metabolic dysfunction and that better explains its association with atherosclerosis?
#Me: Is it possible that almost the entire amount of atherogenesis associated with high triglyceride rich LDL is due to dysfunctional lipid metabolism and the diseases that result in these profiles rather than the LDL particles themselves?
1/🧵 I'm definitely a fan of both @DominicDAgosti2 and @DrRagnar (obviously), so I was excited to see them chatting about #lipids, #LMHRs, and Dom's consideration of increasing carbs to lower his #ApoB
3/ When chatting with Dom in SD last year for dinner, he mentioned focusing less on maintaining such a sizable muscle mass as he typically does, and I predicted he'd likely see his LDL/ApoB as considerably higher with this change if still #keto. This podcast appears to confirm...
But I also know many people in my own family who have struggled their whole lives to lose weight and assume if they don't have this near instant drop to their goal weight like <fill in the blank success story> then they are doing it all wrong...
... I can't tell you how many times I point out truly new, record-setting successes with people I know personally -- but it's their own record, their own health journey.
But they often can't see it because they hear they "won't be hungry anymore on <fill in blank diet>"...
If you've followed me a while, you know I try to avoid the "diet debates" (tho not always successfully)
However, I have been getting a high frequency of DMs/messages/calls regarding DD's new endeavor for a #lowcarb alternative
2/ Let me first start off by saying I don't think any diet is inherently superior to all others.
I *do* think the #lowcarb diet is under-utilized for populations that can uniquely benefit from it.
However, I also believe most of us have many more options than is often assumed.
3/ Moreover, I consider @DietDoctor's long history of providing a "one stop shop" platform for all things #lowcarb/#keto with high quality guides, videos, and tools to be without equal.
It made it extremely easy to refer everyone in DD's direction, particularly beginners.