Hi @ChinaLawTransl8 in response to your varied and many criticisms of our story, which can be viewed here we offer the following responses and we will not be responding further. Thanks.
1/26 The set up and framing of this story was that the national social credit system was not fully operational yet so the story would present a vision of what it could be, not what it is.
2/26 The idea of social credit score comes directly from the ‘Planning Outline for the Construction of Social Credit System’ set out in 2014 from the State Council, a document that you have on your website.
3/26 This document emphasizes that trustworthiness will be rewarded or incentivised and that untrustworthiness will be punished.
4/26 The document from the National Development and Reform Commission from May 6th 2015 links cameras to social credit & states “by the end of 2020 China will achieve CCTV coverage of 100% for public security in all areas”
6/26 Many of the trial areas in the cities and provinces have scores. EG in Rongcheng, Shandong province has score out of 1000 where individuals win points for actions like helping elderly, or lose points for getting a parking ticket
7/26 The NDRC, the body responsible for implementing the SCS announced in April that the Tax Ministry, Social Security Ministry, Finance Ministry would all link their data to the system, & said 10m have been punished under SCS already.
8/26 Liu Hu is locked out from travelling because of his poor credit rating. The foundations documents make it very clear that part of the purpose of social credit is to strengthen the justice system.
9/26 If you do not pay fines or have a criminal record your social credit will suffer & you will be punished. It is a key plank of the system as outlined by the Party.
10/26 If you do not pay fines or have a criminal record your social credit will suffer & you will be punished. It is a key plank of the system as outlined by the Party.
11/26 … and that the next step was to “increase the intensity of rewards and punishments so that dishonest people will be punished and the faithful will be motivated.”
12/26 Social Credit – government level
ndrc.gov.cn/gzdt/201608/t2…
NDRC signed a joint memo with Mayi Jinfu, Alibaba holds 35% of shares.
ndrc.gov.cn/gzdt/201608/t2…
NDRC signed a joint memo with Mayi Jinfu, Alibaba holds 35% of shares.
13/26 ndrc.gov.cn/gzdt/201608/t2…
State Council Document No. “2016 (33)”
Issued on May 30th. 2016
国务院关于建立完善守信联合激励和失信联合惩戒制度加快推进社会诚信建设的指导意见
State Council Document No. “2016 (33)”
Issued on May 30th. 2016
国务院关于建立完善守信联合激励和失信联合惩戒制度加快推进社会诚信建设的指导意见
15/26 On June 8 2018, NDRC issued 36 memos with other departments, set up more than 100 methods for reward and punishment.
16/26 For personal credit calculation, different cities have their own rules.
18/26 this links shows how Sesame credit is calculated.
creditchina.gov.cn/lianhejiangche…
creditchina.gov.cn/lianhejiangche…
19/26 credit.suzhou.gov.cn/cms/ueditor/js…
this is an official document issued by Suqian city on March 8th. 2018, details on joint rewarding and punishing system of Suqian city
this is an official document issued by Suqian city on March 8th. 2018, details on joint rewarding and punishing system of Suqian city
20/26 xinhuanet.com/gongyi/2018-05…
this is a Xinhua report, it used Weihai city, Shandong province, as an example, saying the personal credit system of Weihai city would collect data from 65 departments
this is a Xinhua report, it used Weihai city, Shandong province, as an example, saying the personal credit system of Weihai city would collect data from 65 departments
21/26 Re Xinjiang, the story explains it has a different version of social credit & that technology is just the latest weapon used to control the Uyghur pop
22/26 There is no legal basis for what is happening there. It’s not being determined by the courts or the NPC but by police and security forces on the ground.
23/26 Most of the detentions are extra judicial and under the newly empowered “Secrets Act” authorities have no obligation to reveal anything they are doing in Xinjiang or anywhere else in China.
24/26 Since early 2017 every individual in Xinjiang has had to get new identity papers and a “Population Data Collection Form” assigned them as either trustworthy, average or untrustworthy.
25/26 Much of the categorization work was done by fanghuiji teams of security officials in charge of the process that apparently visited most houses in Xinjiang.
26/26 The facts have been established by academics like Adrian Zenz, Professor Timothy Grose, from Rose-Hulman University, Darren Byler, from University of Washington and Maya Wang of Human Rights Watch.
