Thread by @eJuicefairy

Ok. I’m going to try to explain it to you but I don’t expect you to understand.
I’m a flavorist. I combine flavors in order to create an aroma for vapor product. I have worked extensively trying to recreate the taste of a cigarette.

https://twitter.com/jeromeadamsmd/status/1176255149716717568

@JeromeAdamsMD I have at my disposal all the top rated flavorings that are supposed to mimic a cigarette. Please try to describe the flavor of a cigarette to me. You probably can’t and neither can anyone else. What you may be able to describe is what it smells like to you unlit

@JeromeAdamsMD Flavor is extremely objective and taste buds and the sense of smell is different from person to person. Creating a good tobacco flavor is almost impossible because you can not replicate the scent of flavor of burning paper. What we have on the market now are aromas

Some of the aromas mimic the flavor of the outer layer leathery flavor of a cigar. Some mimic the spicy flavor you get from the nicotine in a leaf. Some are aeromatic and have cocoa notes mimicking the sprays and additive used in tobacco products such as cigars or cigarettes.

There is absolutely no such thing as a tobacco flavor that can fill all the missing links and what you are left with is a bunch of attempts of replicating the taste of a cigarette using what ever the creator thinks is most prevalent in a tobacco flavor.

Some are decent attempts but they still taste nothing like a cigarette and aren’t satisfying at all. Normally the person attempting to switch to vaping is left disillusioned by that sorry attempt at a tobacco that normally ends up tasting like dirt.

The end result is going back to smoking because at least smoking taste more natural and less chemically.
It is a lot easier to replicate the taste of a candy or a food than it is replicating a cigarette or even let’s say a food (pizza)

Vaping something familiar and satisfying is important to be able to stick to vaping because quitting smoking even with vaping isn’t easy. There has to be something familiar and comforting about it. Anyone can relate to an artificial candy or dessert because they are confection.

Let’s take the example of Jelly Belly. They have Pizza and they have bacon and they have pickles. All of those flavors in artificial form are gross. But in real life it’s very good. Same concept with vaping.

The same concept goes with vaping. There is just no way to make things taste natural with artificial flavorings. Sure we could use NET to try to bring out the taste of tobacco but all that does is give you the taste of a wet tobacco and honestly that’s just gross.

I’m sure I’m wasting my time here but at least I answered your question and when it comes to flavors and tobaccos I definitely know my shit! I also understand conversion because in the last 10 years I’ve successfully converted my entire family and circle of friends.

I am not a business owner I do not work for any vape shop. I am what the industry calls a hobbyist. I belong to the subculture within the culture. My husband relapsed back to cigarettes last October when his mom passed away and it took me 8 months to talk him into quitting again.

Cigarettes are not just addicting because of the nicotine. There is something else that causes the addiction or he should have easily been able to just jump back into vaping. One cigarette just ONE made him a smoker for 8 months!

Smoking around me is almost as sinful as cheating on me but I am also well aware that they have to want to do yes I complained and bagged him and bought countless equipment and created lots of different flavor combinations for him during that time.

Using excuses like “can you vape this for a day or so tell me if it needs anything I really need your opinion on this combination” nothing worked. He kept coming home smelling like cigarettes till he had an asthma attack & didn’t have his inhaler b/c he’s been asthma free for 5yr

I had also recently made a strawberry watermelon combo close to his favorite chewing gum. Finally he vaped for 1 day. Then the next day again and now he’s been vaping again since July. The vaping journey isn’t always cut and dry! Smoking is easier than vaping and quitting is hard

@bodhicat54 here it is