No idea what Shapiro’s background is outside trolling libs, but I maybe he’s sort of Straussian? The ‘Jerusalem plus Athens’ thing.
*chokes to death on own tongue*
ALL GOOD THINGS J&A 4eva❤️❤️
Yeah, this is 💯gonna be J&A=stuff @benshapiro likes.
Don’t worry man, I’m already here. This is my jam.
I’m a philosopher of science and I study intellectual history. I don’t care about your personal anecdotes, Ben. Gah. Give me some of that sweet sweet history of western civ, not a story about your wife and kids.
“There can be no individual or communal moral purpose without a foundation of Divine meaning.”
No argument, @benshapiro ? Nothing? Not in this chapter, anyway. Maybe in chapter 2!
Sorry #China we did the math. Not here in the book though. Science!
“The Light that allegedly shone at Sinai incontestably illuminated the world.”
Dude, nobody alleged anything about the Light. The Light is not subject to criminal proceedings and our lawyers have not instructed us to minimize our risk of legal action.
Everyone knows that this was original to Judaism. #first
It’s the philosophy of natural law.
Ouch, that’s a freshmanish ‘sweeping statement that is accidentally a self own’. If the most you can say is ‘without it, history would be different’, you got nothing.
No, they really could. They really really could, and nothing Ben Shapiro has to say about happiness is one fucking thousandth as insightful as Aristotle.
Also, Alexander the Great.
Fact check: true
But it wasn’t the ‘first serious attempt to do so’, Ben. I give you: Philo of Alexandria
Since, of course, Christianity and Judaism were the only religions.
Oh, god, he’s going to have to have a take on Islam, isn’t he. That should be fun.
As an aside, I think this has actually been pretty useful as an exercise to think critically as I read. This phone keyboard is SLAYING me though so I got to do a different mode.
This little throwaway line is SO revealing. It’s worth a whole discussion, actually.
So if you want to say that Islam is not Western, in the 8th century, but Charles Martel and his Franks are, you BETTER explain why.
And in the gardens of Al-Andalus, but, hey, this is big a step up from chapter 2.
It is kind of odd that Shapiro in this book seem to only care about religion in that it gives people a sense of purpose. Salvation? Meh.
This discussion of the scientific revolution is mostly interested in saying over and over again that these guys were not atheists and their faith motivated their science.
Looking back, I should have been WAY harder on Ben for his treatment of Greek political thought and practice.
I still can’t believe we went from the middle ages to the US constitution in 42 pages
J. Israel’s radical Enlightenment represent
Dude, do you even sophist? Protagoras is disappointed.
But seriously, why the hell did we not get Socrates pantsing all the moral relativists back in Athens? This should be catnip for Ben.
Who, yes, did argue that Moses did not write the Torah. As is now accepted by historians everywhere. Is Shapiro really unfamiliar with the practice of looking at the bible as a historical document? Can he really be that ignorant?
I guess we are not going to spend much time celebrating evolution by natural selection as one of the greatest achievements in the history of science, huh?
Yawn. This is getting repetitive. Since there is never any argument or deep analysis, it is just the same set of bad or good ideas mouthed by different players.
Now we get to find out how to fix western civilization. Cool.