Thread by @Itmechr3

One of the worst mistakes the left has made in the last 200 years is failing to realize that state and market are two sides of the same coin and that in fact markets and empire have been, for the last 2,000 years, coconsitutive.

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This has forced us into a political false binary where the alternative to "the market" has been nationalization, ignoring the fact that the actual structure of the workplace are by design virtually identical in private and nationalized firms.

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The pivotal moments of the Russian and Chinese revolutions in this light are Lenin's restoration of one man rule in the factory in early 1918 and the collapse of self management in the remains of the former Japanese industrial manufacturing belt

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in Manchuria. Successive experiments in industrial self management in China collapsed due to the structural economic pressures of the 1950's production bottleneck but the form of self management found at the local level of agricultural production

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in 50's China under phases 1-3 of agricultural collectivization were broadly popular and very effective. But during stages 4 and 5 and collectivization the Party seized control of the production process and increased grain requisitions while

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implementing what essentially amounted to a speed-up, with absolutely disastrous consequences. What I'm getting at here is that state managed production has the same productivist imperatives as capitalist production, which leads them to implement

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almost identical methods (like Taylorism) to increase productivity at the expense of any form of autonomy or collective decision making about what use values should be produced and how that production process should be organized. These pressures

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also exist in coops, there's a really incredible ethnography of the Santa Fe cooperative silver mine called Not Ours Alone that has a really stirring account of how when profits were high at the mine workers would just stop working after they'd

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made enough money to support their family and the coop basically had to introduce consumerism to get people to go back to work. Building a world in which we produce use values we actually need is going to require a complete overhaul of the

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way we organize production and its imperatives. It's not enough to just nationalize, it's not enough to just form workers coops, even the kind of syndicalisism in revolutionary Spain, which was a step in the right direction certainly insofar as

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it demonstrated a form of self management that actually was based on different groups of workers deciding collectively what they actually needed and shifting resources around democratically to make sure it happened, is insufficient.

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What is necessary is the complete overhaul of the basic structure of work and leisure itself, the radical Marxian break of the division of labor, and the realization that there exists something forms of organization beyond the state/market bureaucracies.

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I'm going to piss off some more individualist anarchists here by saying that I think production is inherently social and that means we're going to have to figure out ways to consensus that don't fucking suck like most of our current methods

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because we don't really have the technology to allow everyone to be completely self sufficient even if they wanted to be (and obviously that's something that can be worked towards if people want but in the meantime we're constrained).

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But the point is that if we're not going to sacrifice most of the world to climate change we're going to have to develop non-state/market forms of social organization that break the productivist cycle, and we need to do it FAST.

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That's what's at stake in the current cycle of revolt. If we break the state/market complex RIGHT NOW, literally in the next year or MAYBE two, we can stop the worst effects of climate change. This will require the complete and utter destruction

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of the ruling class. There can be no class comprise or re-entry into the electoral process like Morales did in 2005-2006. The bourgeoisie must be crushed permanently or we are all completely fucked. If they EVER take power again we're fucked.

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If we leave a way for a new bourgeoisie to reconstitute itself we're fucked. If we allow productivism to persist we're fucked. It's not popular to talk about revolution as a totalizing break with existing society but that's what's necessary for

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the survival of the global poor. If we lose the global color line and the class war will be resolved by concentration camps. It's already starting in the US, in Xinjiang, in Libya, in Morocco, in Kashmir. We cannot afford to lose.

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And maybe we will lose, but when it's our turn on the barricades when the real economic collapse hits keep in mind what the stakes are and what we must do, because there is no other way out.

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