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My one Repub relative, working class 60 y o warehouse mgr, said to me at dinner, “Elizabeth, this is going to shock you.”

Uh huh, I thought. But he went on.

“The thing now is it’s all insanity. Nothing is going get better in this country until Trump is out of office.”
Could’ve knocked me over with a feather.

He said “no matter what side you’re on, it’s too much. No one can stand this level of crazy.”

This guy voted for Trump and as recently as three months ago was texting me about how Trump was right about pulling troops out of Syria.
We went on to talk about Biden and election interference and it’s not like we’re on the same page on everything.

But madness is exhausting. At one point he said “I just want the country to heal.”

The needle is moving. Let’s hope it’s not too late.
(And let me add before I get leaped on: I hold his feet to the fire on Trump’s racism. Not a single conversation goes by where I don’t bring up immigration and prison reform. It’s a survey of one, I grant you that. But this was a Limbaugh listener. Who now supports impeachment.)
PS. Ugh I would be wrong to not add this: the Never Trumpers, for all the totally legit criticism we may have, are making a difference.

@gtconway3d: he is aware of you. You have swayed him. I’m not going to say anything about that other than that it’s a victory that matters.
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