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David Miller @Tracking_Power
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@MaherBarotchi @CraigMurrayOrg @mistik0s @deadlyvices @Qoppa999 @im_PULSE @mhmadallan @syrianviews @sarah131214 @PiersRobinson1 @AlysEliza @Tim_Hayward_ @OborneTweets @marydejevsky @bbclysedoucet @alextomo @ClarkeMicah @dancohen3000 @MaxBlumenthal @jimmy_dore @Jonathan_K_Cook @JohnWight1 @johnpilger @NeilClark66 @afshinrattansi @SecureBio I am struggling with your argument here. Are you saying that there are two types of witnesses in war? 1. Regime witnesses who are scared and cannot tell the truth; and 2. Syrian citizen witnesses who can only tell the truth?
@MaherBarotchi @CraigMurrayOrg @mistik0s @deadlyvices @Qoppa999 @im_PULSE @mhmadallan @syrianviews @sarah131214 @PiersRobinson1 @AlysEliza @Tim_Hayward_ @OborneTweets @marydejevsky @bbclysedoucet @alextomo @ClarkeMicah @dancohen3000 @MaxBlumenthal @jimmy_dore @Jonathan_K_Cook @JohnWight1 @johnpilger @NeilClark66 @afshinrattansi @SecureBio 1. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. There seems to be widely varying assumptions about how we know stuff, especially in the case of alleged Syrian chemical weapons attacks, which we have been debating for a week or so. It is inhibiting knowledge. A thread: apologies if it gets long.
@MaherBarotchi @CraigMurrayOrg @mistik0s @deadlyvices @Qoppa999 @im_PULSE @mhmadallan @syrianviews @sarah131214 @PiersRobinson1 @AlysEliza @Tim_Hayward_ @OborneTweets @marydejevsky @bbclysedoucet @alextomo @ClarkeMicah @dancohen3000 @MaxBlumenthal @jimmy_dore @Jonathan_K_Cook @JohnWight1 @johnpilger @NeilClark66 @afshinrattansi @SecureBio @HamishDBG @JoePBallard @HughRGregg @oliver_morton @ChemBioTroll @aneritani @OPCW @RealDeeptiC @phl43 3. So, how do we know anything? Twitter is not ideal for explaining complex questions. But we can try and discuss the some of the ways in which we can ‘know’ about alleged chemical attacks in Syria. I will discuss expertise, conflict of interest, what counts as ‘evidence’.
@MaherBarotchi @CraigMurrayOrg @mistik0s @deadlyvices @Qoppa999 @im_PULSE @mhmadallan @syrianviews @sarah131214 @PiersRobinson1 @AlysEliza @Tim_Hayward_ @OborneTweets @marydejevsky @bbclysedoucet @alextomo @ClarkeMicah @dancohen3000 @MaxBlumenthal @jimmy_dore @Jonathan_K_Cook @JohnWight1 @johnpilger @NeilClark66 @afshinrattansi @SecureBio @HamishDBG @JoePBallard @HughRGregg @oliver_morton @ChemBioTroll @aneritani @OPCW @RealDeeptiC @phl43 5. The gold standard and the approach taken initially by the OPCW was that samples and interviews should be taken in situ so that OPCW experts could conduct interviews and take biological and environmental samples at the site of alleged attacks.
@MaherBarotchi @CraigMurrayOrg @mistik0s @deadlyvices @Qoppa999 @im_PULSE @mhmadallan @syrianviews @sarah131214 @PiersRobinson1 @AlysEliza @Tim_Hayward_ @OborneTweets @marydejevsky @bbclysedoucet @alextomo @ClarkeMicah @dancohen3000 @MaxBlumenthal @jimmy_dore @Jonathan_K_Cook @JohnWight1 @johnpilger @NeilClark66 @afshinrattansi @SecureBio @HamishDBG @JoePBallard @HughRGregg @oliver_morton @ChemBioTroll @aneritani @OPCW @RealDeeptiC @phl43 8. After this they abandoned the stated approach and instead allowed other groups to supply evidence and indeed select and transport witnesses to them in a third country (we presume Turkey). I will come back to the problem with that later in this thread.
@MaherBarotchi @CraigMurrayOrg @mistik0s @deadlyvices @Qoppa999 @im_PULSE @mhmadallan @syrianviews @sarah131214 @PiersRobinson1 @AlysEliza @Tim_Hayward_ @OborneTweets @marydejevsky @bbclysedoucet @alextomo @ClarkeMicah @dancohen3000 @MaxBlumenthal @jimmy_dore @Jonathan_K_Cook @JohnWight1 @johnpilger @NeilClark66 @afshinrattansi @SecureBio @HamishDBG @JoePBallard @HughRGregg @oliver_morton @ChemBioTroll @aneritani @OPCW @RealDeeptiC @phl43 @MarkAlbon1 @StratiumGlobal @NatalieJourno 22. All of these appointments, though they may be long expired, raise the question of conflict of interest, as these institutions of education are in each case actually part of the military structure of the US and UK and thus – in the case of Syria – belligerents in the conflict.
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