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Insight into Ruby Ridge, OKC, and Waco
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Netflix just debuted two shows well worth your time to watch: The PBS American Experience episodes on Ruby Ridge & Oklahoma City. I have thought for many years that someone needed to do a documentary detailing how Ruby Ridge, Waco & Oklahoma City were all related.

However, Robert Matthews & the ultra-violent white supremacist group he founded is discussed in great detail in the Oklahoma City episode. Due to extensive media coverage, far more people know about Ruby Ridge, Waco & Oklahoma City than remember Matthews & The Order.

But as this American Experience episode on Oklahoma City makes clear, without Matthews & what he did, there is no Ruby Ridge or Waco. And without Ruby Ridge or Waco, there is no Oklahoma City.

In the early 1980's, Robert Matthews founded a violent white supremacist group called 'The Order' that committed many armed robberies & killed one person, Denver radio personality Alan Berg.

After rolling up most of the members of the group, law enforcement tracked Matthews to a cabin in Washington. Surrounded by federal agents, Matthews chose to die rather than surrender. After a fierce hours long gun battle, the cabin he was in burned down with him inside of it.

The idea of violent racial-obsessed terrorists on our own soil began with Robert Matthews.
Now, don't get me wrong. Matthews was dangerous. But all Matthews & his tiny group of about 10 members did was rob a bunch of banks & armored cars & kill exactly one person.

When you stack that up against the crimes committed by the Weather Underground & the Black Panthers & other violent LEFT groups, it's not much. In just an 18 month span, in 1972/1973, radical Leftists in America unleashed a domestic terror campaign that has never been equaled.

Over 2,500 bombings occurred. And it must be recalled that Weather Underground radicals joined the Black Liberation Army in the robbery of a Brinks truck that killed three people; a *single* incident that immediately moves them past The Order in number of people actually killed

But the IDEA was fostered, there are MANY of these militant racist groups out there, and we have no idea what they are planning. Are they still just a bunch of white trash losers meeting in faraway compounds in the woods talking fantasies?

OR was Matthews a foretaste of a coming trend of racist radicals who have decided to put the talk of revolution and violence into actual action? It appears top law enforcement officials in D.C. decided to answer that by saying 'Better safe than sorry'.

From the mid-1980's to the mid-1990's, Bob Matthews & The Order were the reason federal agencies began preparing to turn back a supposed tidal wave of forthcoming white supremacist domestic terrorism.

The feds became desperate to get informants inside the white nationalist movement before the anticipated violence could get going.
As the PBS American Experience episode on Ruby Ridge shows in great detail, this is what led to the fiasco up on that mountain in Idaho in 1992.

That's it, apparently.
That's the justification. Koresh & his followers had a lot of guns, he was preaching the end of the world and he MIGHT do something crazy 'soon'.

For that reason a large scale raid was approved for the Waco compound. Because one day, some day, who knows, Koresh *might* become violent towards the world outside the Mt. Carmel compound.

Explaining the REAL reason for the raid might have made the ATF look kind of bad: "Well we have this large raiding team we want more funding for but it doesn't do much of anything so we decided to have a big showcase raid to protect our funding."

Now let's look at the raid itself. It was botched from the start. Local news was tipped off about it. A reporter looking for the Branch Davidian compound asking for directions to it actually ended up tipping off a friend of Koresh's.

As mind-boggling as this is going to sound, once the ATF agents in charge realized Koresh had had almost an hour's warning of their raid they decided to proceed anyway. And they didn't change hardly anything in the original plan.

This plan actually called for - I am not making this up - heavily encumbered ATF agents in 60 pounds of gear carrying ladders up to the building, then CLIMBING UP THE LADDERS & entering the building from the roof through the 2nd floor windows.

It's a miracle the ATF only had 4 agents killed following this plan.
Bad leaders following a bad plan they stuck with long after they should have abandoned it got 4 ATF agents and 6 Davidians killed.

The ATF deciding to risk an armed confrontation with these people was completely unnecessary. It was all done for show. There is no indication that if law enforcement had peacefully come to the compound, talked about illegal weapons, violence would have ensued.

It's been 25 years since this happened. How many times since then has there been a large armed federal raid on an big extremist group in the US involving 70+ agents? If there were any, I missed them.

At least in all the hearings that followed this utter fiasco, the government seems to have learned some important lessons. Nothing close to a Waco raid has ever occurred since on American soil.

After Obama was elected & the Tea Party formed, once again we were endlessly told a huge wave of right wing extremist violence was coming.

For months after the Tucson shooting, people who had to know better kept trying to tie the lunatic responsible for that crime to the Tea Party and Obama's political opponents.

This trickle of 1 lunatic here, then another lunatic there a few years later is always supposed to turn into a towering wave of extremism.

Robert Matthews & The Order led directly to the Weaver tragedy at Ruby Ridge. Then the Feds building up their raid teams to handle a huge wave of white supremacist terrorism that didn't materialize led to Waco.
And Waco led directly to Oklahoma City.

I can't tell you how relieved those people were who'd been predicting that a huge wave of right wing domestic terrorism was coming that McVeigh finally showed up and fulfilled all their prophecies.

*One* asshole named Timothy McVeigh decided to be that 1 man wave of right wing terrorism. Because of McVeigh, the narrative that a huge wave of white supremacist domestic terrorism will soon manifest itself will never die.

And THAT'S how the PBS American Experience episode on Oklahoma City ends: repeating that exact same narrative. Despite the fact he only had the most casual of associations with skinheads & white power fanatics, it's claimed he was 'one of them'.

McVeigh wasn't a Christian either, but that doesn't stop the Left from endlessly painting him as a 'right wing Christian terrorist'.

The Oklahoma City bombing was 23 years ago. There has been no widespread wave of white power/anti-gov't terrorism. But that hasn't stopped some people from constantly claiming it lurks just out of sight, over the horizon & will arrive soon.

I'm not downplaying what McVeigh did. I'm saying it was 23 years ago. There is no big threat of a suddenly emerging white power terrorism movement. The threat is minimal. Is it possible there could ever be another McVeigh? Yes. Is it likely there will be 'many' McVeighs? No.

But for 30 years since Bob Matthews roasted to death in that cabin in 1984 I've watched the narrative grow about racist domestic terrorism. The same gov't & political types that sell this narrative always downplay & ignore actual real domestic terrorism from the Left.

The same universities that now lionize former hyper-violent 60's radicals such as the Weather Underground & the Black Panthers sell this narrative.

Few people even remember the biggest wave of domestic terrorism in modern times in America was unleashed on this country in the 1960's and 1970's by THE RADICAL LEFT. There were over 3,000 domestic acts of terrorism, mostly bombings perpetrated by radical Leftist revolutionaries.

I've met skinheads. They are morons. They don't control anything, they can't even win local elections, much less realistically affect the outcome of national ones.

White Power has no power. Political or otherwise. Quit listening to political activists disguised as journalists claiming differently to you.

Meanwhile the radicals on the LEFT who do have real, actual power & influence, what are THEY doing? They use their influence in Washington D.C., in academia & Hollywood to sell this narrative about right wing domestic terrorism. Usually by skinheads.

Right now the Left is on a quest to limit free speech through threatening violence. Just ask Ann Coulter, Ben Shapiro or Charles Murray. And like a magician trying to distract you with a waving of the hand, while they do this they wail about 'growing right wing terrorism!'

There have always been right wing extremists and racists and there's always been far left revolutionaries & anarchists. One side is always seeking more political power by playing up the dangers of the other sides worst extremists.

That American Experience episode on Oklahoma City was doing great right up until the end when it tied McVeigh to the white power movement and falsely claimed he 'came out of' that movement.

The White Power movement is a joke. It's not a legitimate threat. It produced exactly ONE organized violent threat in 30 yrs: The Order. To give the threat greater weight, people want to claim McVeigh was something he was not. He was a loner.

McVeigh may have had contact with some white power groups, but he never joined one & in the tapes I heard he doesn't sound like a skinhead. He sounds like a anti-government fanatic, not a racist fanatic.

But the PBS documentary ends by insisting that McVeigh 'came out of' the militant white power movement. It's far more accurate to say he came out of an anti-government movement.

If McVeigh fits any modern group we see in America today, it's the Sovereign Citizen movement, which is virulently anti-government and has had it's share of ultra-violent radicals in it, despite it's tiny size.

As the Oklahoma City episode details, how did McVeigh end up getting himself arrested right after the bombing? He drove a car with no license plate on it. That was not a mistake on his part, he was deliberately doing that.

And when the cop who stopped him for no license plate noticed McVeigh was carrying a concealed handgun? Of course McVeigh had no license for it, & he was arrested. This is textbook Sovereign Citizen behavior.

But while there are around 500 white power groups in the US [at least according to the Southern Poverty Law Center, if you trust their #'s and for good reason many do not], Sovereign Citizens are just a tiny handful of lunatics. Like, maybe a couple thousand coast to coast.

So if you want to pretend there is a REAL growing THREAT here in America that our government needs to crack down on, which do you choose? Both aren't very numerous. Skinheads likely aren't even 50,000 in a country of 320 million.

But they way outnumber Sovereign Citizens. So they have that going for them. So if you are going to endlessly gin up a threat that hovers over the horizon just out of sight, you use skinheads, not Sovereign Citizens.

You may have noticed skinheads & white power types are seen more in our society today. That's not because there are more of them. It's because it serves the purposes of the media's anti-Trump narratives to elevate their visibility right now.

Look at David Duke. He never went anywhere. He wasn't kept in a glass case reading "Break If Donald Trump Runs For President".

David Duke has always been David Duke. That is, he's always been a racist asshole. But for many years he was an out of sight racist asshole. Why did the media suddenly start giving him plenty of oxygen again? Because of Trump.

Nobody cared about David Duke or what he thought for the last decade and a half or so until the media realized it could tie him to Donald Trump. All of a sudden we started seeing that grinning prick's face in the news again, something that hadn't happened since the mid-1990's.

The media breathlessly informed us that TRUMP WAS ELEVATING AND LIFTING UP THE WHITE NATIONALISTS TO POWER!

No he wasn't. It was the MEDIA raising the visibility of a small pathetic subset of Trump supporters to smear the entire Trump base. "Hey look who you Trump supporters have showing up your rallies. You must secretly approve of these white power groups!"

Trump running for President & subsequently winning the White House led the media to raise the visibility of his WORST supporters. There is a deliberate purpose behind that.

As they raise the visibility of Trump's white power fans, the media ALSO gets to renew it's pimping of it's racist domestic terrorism narrative. It's one of their absolute favorite narratives, so this is two-fer for them.

So understand what you are seeing as the media does these two things at once. They are raising the visibility of this tiny subset of Trump fans to smear the entire Trump base as potential domestic terrorists.

No matter what actually happens, the narrative the Left sells never changes. For 30 years it's been "The white nationalist movement is frozen out, disenfranchised, they can't participate in the system, they'll turn to terrorism!"

Now? Watch this trick: "Trump legitimized these white nationalists but he'll disappoint them & they'll turn to domestic terrorism!"

Of course, Trump didn't 'legitimize' these racist pricks, but that's what the media will tell you. Note, it doesn't matter what actually happens, a guy these racists like wins such as 'America First!' Donald Trump, or Obama is President, violence is coming either way, supposedly.

That's your first clue the narrative is based on politically motivated wishful thinking. It's the worst kind of wishcasting there is and it's time for it die in a fire.

Now, you can't stop the media from doing this. This is who they are. It will never change. What you can do is understand how they are trying to manipulate you and fight back.

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