2) Instead of keeping SL on sold legs. I keep SL on otm options in the system
SL was on 28000 PE at 220 (day high)
SL was on 30000 CE at 165 (day high)
3) At 10:15 am, Bnf started to trend down and 28000 PE was bought at 220 and I immediately bought 30000 CE at 110
4) If you look at the straddle chart, there were lot of intraday spikes and your SL would have been hit if you had kept SL on atm sold legs
5) But after lot of intraday spikes the straddle from 980 closed at 880. A 100 point decay intraday.
But even if both your buy option got triggered you would have made around 15-20 points inspite of such violent moves on both sides.
6) So instead of keeping stops on sold legs ,keep stops on otm wings and once both wings are bought try to get credit extra credit on other side to reduce the breakeven. By this you will not be out during spikes and will save slippages too if trading huge qty.
7) So always remember
- Sell options as per view
- Keep protective buy stop on otm legs
- Once buy is triggered , stay clam and try to get extra credit by creating put spread or call spread as market movement
Goodluck !!
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How to manage strangles dynamically incase of a violent move or IV spike ?
1) Yesterday and infact entire last week if you had created strangles you would have experienced that during upmove only call side were increasing but puts weren’t decaying.
2)In morning I had created a short strangle
200 lots 25000 PE sell at 102
200 lots 27000 CE sell at 161
You can sell from below image that if I had waited in this strangle till day end I would have lost around -4.5 L
So lets see what all adjustments did I do logically.
3)After creating strangles the premiums strarted increasing as puts were not decaying and calls were increasing.
So I had kept 100 lots buy on 26500 CE at 400(day high)
My buy got executed at 400 around 12:15 pm & I exited 25000 PE at 75
Importance of Risk Management
(Real Life Examples)
1) On 21st Sept 2018, I had sold 330 PE overnight and YesBank opened 10% lower and closed the day at -33%. But I survived as I bought 320 put as protection.
If I had not bought 320 PE then would have lost 10 L
Thread on system trading and conviction to follow them.
1) On Aug 2016, I had my highest ever loss of 18 L due to illiquidty risk. I had shorted JustDial 500 CE and was in profit at 3.19 pm but at 3.20 pm lost -18 L due to a risk I wasn’t aware at that time.
2) I had huge qty in Just Dial CE but as my position was huge and Just Dial being an illiquid script. My position got squared from 0 to 10 Rs. I was in 1.3 L profit at 3.19 & 3:20 -18 L.
Lost almost 20 L in a min
Check my email to Zerodha and their reply to understand more.
3) I was totally upset as I never thought that I could lose so much due to illiquidity.
There was nothing wrong with system or risk management but this was a risk which I was never aware.
This made me believe in risk management ever then before.