@c0nc0rdance OK:
Firstly the time issue isn’t what they think it is.
I’ve worked on vaccine trials and a huge amount of the time isn’t spent actually doing the trials as such.
This little video explains this really really well:
@c0nc0rdance Next up:
Until it’s proven safe... Well time isn’t the issue here.
Vaccine side effects are almost exclusively short term.
Sometimes things aren’t picked up for a while, but that’s a numbers thing not a times thing.
Really rare things need loads of people vaccinated to show:
@c0nc0rdance And these vaccines have been given to millions.
If you were waiting for them to be proven safe, you are waiting too long.
@c0nc0rdance Also nothing is 100%, not 100% effective and not 100% safe.
Some people will be allergic: we knew that anyway.
Possibly there are extremely rare side effects which aren’t yet apparent.
Is this a problem? When the benefits of vaccination are clear?
Perhaps that’s next, are they?
@c0nc0rdance These vaccines are remarkable!
There’s a silly video where the vaccines are waiting for an interview and one of them is asked by the others what its effectiveness is and it’s sort of mutters under its breath “81%”...and gets teased.
Funny cos it’s true.
@c0nc0rdance Also funny because EVERYONE IS MEAN TO ASTRAZENECA for no reason.
But seriously: these vaccines are ace.
They prevent people getting ill, getting hospitalized and prevent them from dying. And that’s just the person getting vaccinated.
These vaccines WORK. #VaccinesWork
@c0nc0rdance BUT so they stop you catching it and spreading it?
Here scientists get cagey.
This is because they’re not liars, because they don’t say stuff if they don’t have the data to back it up.
Understandable.
BUT they should be being a lot more gung-ho:
The evidence to date is great!
@c0nc0rdance Even if the vaccines don’t provide absolute “sterilizing immunity” they’re reducing the amount of virus anyone who is successfully immunized who does get infected is actually making in their cells.
So reducing the amount they can spread about. ourworldindata.org/vaccination-is…
@c0nc0rdance This is the crux of the problem of science vs pseudoscience #vaccine vs #antivax #scicomm vs #CovIDIOTS et al...
Lies can be half way round the world while truth is tying its laces, checking its confidence intervals.
Scicomm needs to be clearer.
Less equivocal. #VaccinesWork
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These letters between Kennedy and friends and Keele university are worth a read!
Kennedy:
“you mean to imply that some well-meaning philanthropist donor might have stumbled across, and believes, the defamatory pharmaceutical industry slur that I am “anti-vaccine”.”
😂😂😂
Kennedy:
“I must consider that your decision to return my personal check is likely the product of the pharmaceutical industry’s open, aggressive, and rather sinister campaign to defund Professor Exley...”
“...Vaccine makers view Dr. Exley’s efforts to accurately characterize, for the first time, the health impacts of aluminum adjuvants in vaccines, as a threat to their profit-taking.”
I mean, Kennedy? How would anyone, anyone, think you were #antivax ?
I’ve been following #antivaxx behaviour for some time now.
One scenario that gets played out over and over is that of a tragic death of a child, usually due to SIDS.
Grieving family looking for answers.
The #antivaxxers descend.
“Had they been vaccinated?”
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Babies will often have been recently vaccinated, we vaccinate babies: at 8 weeks, at 12 weeks, at 16 weeks, at around a year.
People want a reason why, and sometimes there is no why.
Which only adds to the grief. 2/
Now we have COVID-19 vaccines.
Some of those being offered it as a priority are the clinically vulnerable. People with pre-existing conditions.
Young vibrant adults.
And some of these people, these loved and cherished people will die.
Perhaps before they get the vaccine.
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I have serious reservations about mask wearing. This is because I see people wearing masks wrong every time I go out, & whenever I watch video coverage of news stories. These are, generally, people who are voluntarily wearing masks because they want to help control the virus.
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So I am not annoyed with them, I am annoyed that they haven’t been trained to wear them correctly. If the government is going to demand we wear masks on public transport they need to make a concerted effort to inform people on proper mask use.
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Firstly, wash your hands before you put on a mask. Put the mask on so that it is pinched to the bridge of your nose, and covers your face to under your chin. Get the mask positioned firmly and comfortably (as possible) then wash your hands thoroughly...
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@hannah_disch I’ve just been through and had a look at which might have been (at least in part) vaccine preventable...
Happy for input from more expert individuals!
Abortive and stillborn: got to be a quite few German measles in there, and due to diseases like flu.
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@hannah_disch Ague: no vaccine (yet!) for malaria, but other candidates for the causative agent could be things like flu; which we do vaccinate against.
Bit with a mad dog: definite win for #vaccines here!
❤️💉❤️💉❤️💉❤️ #VaccinesWork #VaccinesSaveLives
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The #HPVvaccine does not cause serious neurological harms (specifically #POTS and #CRPS ). My children will most certainly get the #vaccine , I encourage everyone with children to ensure they’re protected.
Peter Gøtzsche has made outrageous claims about the #HPV vaccine.
Gøtzsche claimed the data he relied upon was in a PhD he supervised.
The PhD made no such claim; even when the protocol was modified to include a “post hoc exploratory harms analysis”; with help from Louise Brinth.
Even then it didn’t show serious neurological harms.
This paper looked at the VAERS data (Dec 2014 -Dec 2017):
“We identified 1 report of a possible case of CRPS..”
~28 million doses given.:
@HighWireTalk Actual survey results:
"Despite these concerns, 82% of respondents were still generally in favor of vaccines, while 8% showed serious doubts, and 9% said they were unsure." #VaccinesWork studyfinds.org/surprising-sur…
@HighWireTalk The survey identified genuine problem. Which is that parents get bombarded with lies on social media.
Luckily most of them see them for the lies they are.
Some have questions...
I'm all for questions!
@HighWireTalk But I am also hugely against the idea that you can lie about vaccines on social media with zero come-back.
I don't think that should be allowed. Because it leads to hesitancy, lack of vaccination and then outbreaks and disease and death.