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After the news, Minister for Home Affairs @PeterDutton_MP joins @PatsKarvelas on #RNDrive #auspol listen live:
@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas .@PatsKarvelas: there are national security concerns around some of the proposals you've suggested, will you consider those?

@PeterDutton_MP: Well there's no national security concerns that the agencies have raised with me (1/2)

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@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas "In fact they've encouraged us very strongly to do whatever we can to provide support and we've done that in the recent debate around encryption" @PeterDutton_MP (2/2)

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@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas .@PatsKarvelas: If we strip someone of citizenship, in all seriousness, what country will take them?

@PeterDutton_MP: Well they're country of origin

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@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas .@PatsKarvelas: And if that country refuses to take them, what happens?

@PeterDutton_MP: Well we have a look at the individual circumstances

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@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas .@PatsKarvelas: Would these laws have stopped what happened on Bourke St?

@PeterDutton_MP: Well some people argue... whether that needs to be at a visa stage or a citizenship stage that we need to intervene or look to deport or cancel

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@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas .@PatsKarvelas: let's pretend these laws are in place, what would happen to Shire Ali?

@PeterDutton_MP: ...most of these people now are people who are born in Australia to a second or third generation... (1/2)

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@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas "....if somebody is convicted of a terrorist offence then in that situation we can take citizenship away... and the encryption aspect to go to your question about the individual in Melbourne is where I believe that would have made a difference" (2/2) @PeterDutton_MP #auspol
@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas .@PatsKarvelas: You're trying to rush through encryption legislation before xmas but you waited over a year... so why is it urgent now?

@PeterDutton_MP: ...the answer in short is that we've had two significant events

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@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas "this is not just in relation to terrorism, we're talking about paedophile rings at the moment who are using encrypted messaging apps to direct the sexual abuse of children on film being skyped back to their bedrooms from SE Asian countries" @PeterDutton_MP #RNDrive #auspol
@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas .@PatsKarvelas: Why are you seeking to politicise [the encryption bill which is a bipartisan issue]?

@PeterDutton_MP: Firstly to address the incorrect statement you've made, I'm not seeking to politicise it


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@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas .@PatsKarvelas: But they're not opposing [the encryption bill] are they?

@PeterDutton_MP: Well I think you should have a look at the words of Mr Shorten and Mr Dreyfus instead of taking the words Mr Dreyfus might put out through his twitter account

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@PeterDutton_MP @PatsKarvelas .@PatsKarvelas: Well I have seen what he says, they say they want a proper process which is the same as every other national security bill

@PeterDutton_MP: they are opposed to the bill in their current form, ask Mr Shorten tomorrow

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