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Good morning from federal court in DC for Roger Stone trial Day 2/3 (depending on if you county jury selection as a trial day). Here’s a selfie w/ my colleague @joshgerstein as we venture into the building for another busy day.
Things will get moving at 9:30 am with Michelle Taylor, the former FBI agent who was the Stone case agent before leaving the bureau, on the witness stand to continue her testimony. She should be up there for another 2 or so hours.
I’m told Randy Credico is a possible witness for the government later this PM.
"All rise" - We are underway.
Former FBI agent Michelle Taylor is back on the witness stand. And the jury is coming back in.
Government having Taylor read aloud a HPSCI (House Intel) press release from Jan. 25, 2017 joint statement announcing their Russia probe. This one: intelligence.house.gov/news/documents…
Now DOJ's Jonathan Kravis having Taylor read aloud the House rules for 115th Congress about HPSCI's responsibilities and being able to "make regular and periodic reports" when dealing with intelligence and intelligence-related activities.
Brief thank you note to @brespolitico for previously shaming me into learning how to thread my tweets.
@BresPolitico Taylor reads aloud HPSCI rules for 115th Congress, and then the Senate Intel press release announcing a bipartisan probe on Russia. This one: intelligence.senate.gov/press/joint-st…
@BresPolitico DOJ intros Credico email to Stone dating 1/6/17: "I have never had a conversation with Julian Assange other than my radio show...i have pieced it all together.. So you may as well tell the truth that you had no back-channel or there’s the guy you were talking about early August.”
@BresPolitico Gov has introduced a couple more emails, including Stone lawyer's letter to HPSCI from 3/4/17 explaining his willingness to testify. Then it shows Stone sharing the letter from his lawyer w/ Corsi & cc'ing CNN's Gloria Borger on 3/24/17
@BresPolitico Now DOJ sharing HPSCI letter back to Stone w/ details of what they wanted him to talk about covering cross-section of info about Russian cyber activities in 2016, Russian contacts with various individuals, US government response, possible leaks of classified info.
@BresPolitico Now DOJ shows Buschel letter to HPSCI where he says Stone doesn't have documents, records, etc. related to what the panel asked. Asked by Kravis if Stone attached any of the emails or texts from 2016 that were shared in court yesterday, Taylor says "no."
@BresPolitico We are now hearing audio of Stone taking the oath when he sits before HPSCI on 9/26/17. He's sworn in by top HPSCI staffer Kashyap Patel.
@BresPolitico Now DOJ playing audio of Stone exchange w/ Rep. Mike Quigley being asked about his comments to the Broward GOP group and in interviews w/ InfoWars - re. him saying he had back-channel to Assange.
@BresPolitico Now hearing an exchange between Stone and Rep. Trey Gowdy who is asking for the name of the intermediary. "If he released me I would be more than happy to tell you his name," Stone replies. Gowdy asks if Stone would ask this person.
@BresPolitico Gowdy replied, "It'd be better for everyone."
@BresPolitico Stone replied to Gowdy, “I don't want to be violating a commitment to be off the record but I'm interested in helping the committee get to the conclusions you need to reach and produce a report.”
@BresPolitico Now DOJ having Taylor read aloud Stone counsel letter from 10/13/17 to HPSCI where Stone IDs his intermediary to Assange is Credico.
@BresPolitico Taylor says no exchanges were found of Stone asking Credico to get release from OTR commitment.
@BresPolitico Now DOJ again back to Sept 17 audio from HPSCI-Stone interview, playing exchanges between Stone and Reps. Schiff and Quigley where they ask how he communicating with his intermediary. Stone says he has no texts, docs w/ person. Stone at one point replies, "He's not an email guy."
@BresPolitico DOJ plays audio of Schiff reminding Stone he's under oath as he's answering these questions about his ways of communicating with his intermediary.
@BresPolitico DOJ plays audio exchange between Rep. Speier and Stone where she asks Stone generally how he communicates. He lists texts, emails, all manner of social media. Then she asks again if he had indeed found nothing.
@BresPolitico "That is correct. As I said earlier if you want to make more specific requests I'm happy to go back and look again but I believe we have fully complied with your request," Stone replied to Speier.
@BresPolitico DOJ now showing a chart of Stone written communications w/ Credico in Sept. 2017: 151, including 72 on Sept. 26, the day he testified to HPSCI. This data came when FBI executed search warrant on Stone in Aug 2018.
@BresPolitico The written comms between Stone-Credico that DOJ just showed include text, Twitter DMs, Facebook DMs, Signal and email
@BresPolitico Now Taylor reading aloud follow-up email from HPSC staffer Patel to Stone lawyers asking for ID of his intermediary and again any communications, docs or other materials related to his exchanges w/ Assange, WikiLeaks, Guccifer or others related to the DNC hack, etc.
@BresPolitico DOJ plays audio of Rep. Quigley asking Stone in Sept. 2017 whether he had asked his intermediary if Assange had any Clinton emails and if they would release them. Stone replied he did not.
@BresPolitico Then they get Taylor to again reiterate there was a Sept. 2016 email from Stone to Credico where he asks Credico to ask Assange for any State or HRC emails.
@BresPolitico DOJ also then shows again the Stone to Eric Prince email from Oct. 3, 2016, discussing the WikiLeaks doc dumps, the one where Stone replied, "You are a great American."
@BresPolitico DOJ just showed a chart with # Stone calls & various Trump campaign officials in various months of 2016. It includes 35 w/ Manafort that March & 51 that April. Fast forward later in year, there are 2 w/ Trump himself in Aug 16; 20 w/ Gates that Aug and 9 w/ Gates that Sept.
@BresPolitico DOJ now showing an email from Stone to Credico from Oct. 19, 2017 (after his HPSCI testimony) forwarding along a letter from his lawyer to HPSCI. There's a but here...
@BresPolitico The but is that the letter Stone forwarded to Credico includes lines that aren't actually in the letter Stone's lawyers sent to HPSCI.
@BresPolitico Not in the letter to HPSCI is language re. Credico being an "accomplished entertainer and impressionist" and then later on a line about how "Stone noticed Credico had travelled to London on at least two occasions and conducted two landmark interviews with Julian Assange on WBAL."
@BresPolitico And now we see a 11/9/17 letter from HPSCI seeking a voluntary transcribed interview w/ Credico.
@BresPolitico And now we are being shown a bunch of Stone-Credico texts from Nov. 19, 2017. Godfather references TK.
@BresPolitico Credico to Stone texts on 11/19/17: “I flew back from london i saw godfather 2" and then "frankie five angels" which refers to Frank Pentangeli
@BresPolitico Another exchange from 11/29/17: Credico texts, "My lawyer wants to see me today" Stone replies, "Stonewall it plead the fifth anything to save the plan... Richard Nixon" - Credico replies, "Ha ha"
@BresPolitico And then DOJ shows Credico lawyer's letter to HPSCI from that mid-November where Credico declines invitation to testify.
@BresPolitico And now seeing Nov. 21 texts where Credico tells Stone he got a subpoena. Stone tells Credico this is when his lawyer "should have told them you would your assert your 5th amendment rights if compelled to appear.”
@BresPolitico And more from Nov. 21, 2017 where Credico continue to exchange texts about how subpoenas work. Kravis asks Taylor if Credico is now saying 'ha ha' and she replies, 'No.'
@BresPolitico Now we're seeing a Nov. 28, 2017 email from Credico where he shares his subpoena with a large group of people BCC, including Stone.
@BresPolitico And then a text exchange that same day 11/28/17 between Stone-Credico where we get another Frank Pentangeli reference.
@BresPolitico Stone writes Corsi as they're talking about testifying to HPSCI: "This whole thing will be worthless unless you find a place to do your Frank Cannon July 10 imitation ‘sure sure Roger Stone this Roger Stone that” - that 'Frank Cannon July 10' appears to be a spell check mishap.
@BresPolitico Because 17 seconds later Stone texts again "Frank Pantsgele” -- still not quite getting it right. We've all been there, right?
@BresPolitico The former FBI agent then energetically walks the court through the whole scene from Godfather II where Frankie Five Fingers forgets a bunch of stuff to Congress rather than implicate the Corleone family. She says she recently saw the movie again.
@BresPolitico We have reached the AM breaking point. Everyone, including this live tweeter, will be taking a pause.
@BresPolitico We are back but I'm going to leave the live-tweeting to others - @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen are both here too - while I handle my day job of writing a story.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Quite a few colorful Stone-Credico text messages shared in recent minutes here. I'll try to quote some here in a moment, but they're still coming fast and furious.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen OK, here we go. Credico to Stone on April 4, 2018: "Just tell the truth... You had no intermediary...you made it up... take it like a man. Great hoax."
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Stone reply: “Everything i know about the Wikileaks disclosure I heard from you and can prove it. You lose.”
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Credico on 4/7/18: "You did it all for attention and my 200 emails and screenshots of my text messages with you will prove it so you were not involved on any level except for lying..." Stone replies, "Why does your breath smell of Ari Melber’s co--?”
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Stone to Credico on 4/9/18: “When I wipe my ass what's on the toilet paper is worth more than you are. You're an alcoholic drug addicted out of work piece of shit.”
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Parents cover your kids eyes for this one. Stone to Credico, 4/9/18: “I know u are a dumb shit but read the constitution. I have a constitutional right to call you a lightweight pantywaist cocksucker drunk asshole piece of shit and I just did.”
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Stone to Credico: “I'm going to take that dog away from you. Not a fucking thing you can do about it either because you are a weak piece of shit.”
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Another Stone reply to Credico from 4/9/18: “I am so ready. Let's get it on. Prepare to die cocksucker."
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen The FBI agent testifying said she counted eight times where Credico told Stone from March to May 2018 that he'd given incorrect testimony to HPSCI about his communications with Assange-WikiLeaks.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen And with that we're in a lunch break.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen I should also add DOJ provided several letters from Stone's lawyers criticizing Democrats for characterizing his testimony and adding that he'd been "forthcoming, truthful and wholly consistent in his many public statements on the matters being investigated.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen And then the former FBI agent was asked whether the letters, including one from Dec. 20, 2018, made any mention of Stone's contacts with Jerome Corsi about WikiLeaks. She replied that they didn't. #30
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen We are back from the lunch break. Bruce Rogow, Stone's defense lawyer, is doing cross of the former FBI agent, Michelle Taylor.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen So, Rogow is having Taylor answer questions about the exhibits without showing them on the screen for jurors or audience watching here in courtroom. He's only referring to them by number, making it a bit challenging to follow along.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Judge Jackson just stopped Rogow to get him to clarify if that's what he intends to be doing. He said yes, he made this decision, saying the jurors have already seen the exhibits once.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Rogow is asking Taylor whether she knows about the content of phone calls involving Stone that she testified about as to raw numbers earlier. She responds that she does not have knowledge about the content of the calls.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Rogow asks if Taylor knows whether after the Stone to Corsi email about getting to Assange if Corsi did indeed get to Assange. She says she does not.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Rogow begins asking Taylor a ? about Corsi. "Do you know that he wrote a book that said Hitler didn't" and Kravis steps up and interrupts with an objection. They are now at the bench discussing w/ Judge Jackson amid white noise.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Suffice to say the objection re. the Corsi/Hitler book has been sustained. Rogow comes back and next thing out of his mouth is "Tab 8..."
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Rogow is clearly pushing the FBI agent to acknowledge she doesn't know what happens after the emails/texts were exchanged. He asks, for ie, what happened after Stone reached out to Manafort re. WikiLeaks. She says she doesn't know.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Rogow is having the former FBI agent read through letters and docs where the HPSCI describes the contours of its investigation.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Rogow has Taylor read aloud the transcript from the HPSCI Stone deposition where Rep. Schiff says Stone is there in a voluntary capacity and he could be given if a subpoena if he's not cooperative. He asks Taylor if Stone ever got a subpoena. She says she doesn't believe so.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Apologies -- Been working on our story for a bit. Rogow still in cross w/ Michelle Taylor.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Rogow is almost finished w/ his cross, he says. Then time for the PM coffee break.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Kravis back up for a quick re-direct w/ Taylor.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen Quick note - our @politico story is now live from today's proceedings. Please check it out here. w/ @joshgerstein politico.com/news/2019/11/0…
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen @politico @joshgerstein Mid-afternoon break. Judge Jackson says court will resume at 3:15. Not sure if that's what she actually meant given it's 8 mins from now. Let's see.....
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen @politico @joshgerstein Judge Jackson wants to know from Stone team if they really do want to play all the audio from the Sept 2017 HPSCI deposition. She says she's cognizant of everyone's time. Up to Rogow to explain his plan when gov rests his case.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen @politico @joshgerstein Jackson also gives Rogow a bit of a dress down w/ jury out of the room. "Not everyone has to be as caffeinated as Mr. Kravis. The pacing of the cross was extremely slow. I think it tested the patience of the jurors a great deal." Urges him to pick up the pace.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen @politico @joshgerstein We are now in a break for about 5-10 mins. Bathroom run everyone!
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen @politico @joshgerstein One more quick thing. Judge Jackson urges Rogow going forward to consider showing the jurors the exhibits.
@BresPolitico @CharlieGileNBC @jacq_thomsen @politico @joshgerstein I'm heading into the courtroom to get some of the color for what's next - so no phone and will be dark for a bit. Follow my partner in crime @joshgerstein for any live-tweet fun.
Ending the day with a link to our final reflowed @politico story that includes all the color from the courtroom with Randy Credico’s testimony. Read it here: politico.com/news/2019/11/0… w/ @joshgerstein
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