Two big cases have hearings today in SDNY—
* Jeffrey Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre’s lawsuit against Alan Dershowitz this morning at 9am EST.
* Case of Giuliani’s associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman heads to court at 2pm EST.
Covering both.
More on Giuffre v. Dershowitz and U.S. v. Parnas et al soon.
We begin with U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska expressing concerns about scope of discovery.
"I was a little concerned when I read the list of people whose deposition you wised to take," Preska said. "It seems to be a pretty long list."
"Whether Mr. Dershowitz had relations with other women in Epstein's house, do we care?" she asks.
Giuffre's counsel replies yes.
Giuffre's counsel notes: "Mr. Dershowitz's denial is quite sweeping."
In his denial, Dershowitz claimed he never had sex with anyone other than his wife.
Preska says they're not going to go into that.
Giuffre's counsel says that, at the end of the day, it's a "he said, she said."
"Or propriety," Preska interjects.
"I'm well aware of that counsel," Preska notes.
Giuffre's counsel notes that this formulation understates matters.
Preska notes that Mr. Kessler--the figure at the center of the recent NYT expose--may be proper scope for deposition.
ICYMI: nytimes.com/2019/11/30/bus…
Both parties want the video, which Dershowitz claims to be a fraud.
The amended claims would included NY's new Child Victims Act.
Today's proceedings have ended. Story coming soon for @CourthouseNews.
A couple more revelations from the hearing...
Dershowitz's attorneys said they plan to subpoena David Boies and the Boies firm under the crime-fraud exception, and they anticipate that the responsive docs will have to be viewed privately by the judge.
Giuffre's attorney Charles Cooper is from the Washington-based Cooper & Kirk, PLLC.
I will also be covering Parnas later in the day.