Thread by @StillDelvingH

Many facts have come to light about fraud and crime underpinning the EU referendum. There are at least 11"live" investigations (9 in the UK, one in South Africa and one in the US) with others coming in other countries.
1/17

But what we know thus far, about electoral manipulation, campaign overspend and coordination, data theft, illegal sources of money and possible foreign intervention, may not be the total picture of how the referendum was won.
2/17

Could the vote count have been hacked?
As in: What if the handling of some votes was outsourced?
3/17

Would that raised questions when 975,000 postal votes were never returned, and 144,000 were rejected? That’s more than 1 million votes.

https://twitter.com/Julesmadworld/status/1048720370042376194

4/17

When, at the same time, most areas had a high postal votes turnout, and some even might have broken a world record? (99%)?
5/17

What if the handling of the votes was outsourced not to a neutral third party, but to a company with a prominent Leave activist on the board?
6/17

You know, a Leave campaigner like, say... (Legatum contributor) Peter Lilley, who happened to be a director of a company involved in UK referendums and elections, EU Ref included?
peterlilley.co.uk/pressreleases/…
7/17

Now did Idox count votes in the EU Referendum?
No.
Was it involved?
Yes.
They were in charge of saying which postal votes were valid before they were counted.
(Using their own staff -and scanners)
Video here: pssd.idoxgroup.com/acton/media/21…
8/17

Note: The Electoral commission specified that shouldn't be done.
Link here: electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/…
9/17

Here you can see the votes to be verified coming in -please note these returned postal packs are in an *unsealed* box.
10/17

Was the process supervised somehow? (By council staff, no Idox staff, I mean).
Idox claims to “run the whole postal vote service for the customer so it can focus on other important area of the elections” (From Idox video)
Doesn’t exactly scream “closely supervised process.”
11/17

So, it may be normal/have nothing to do with it, but votes appearing and disappearing, whole regions where the numbers match, other regions where it doesn't...
IMO it may not mix well with "unsealed ballot boxes handled by a 3rd party provider linked to a Leave campaigner".
12/17

No way to know anyway.
How were the unsealed votes collected by Idox &how did they end up in the sealed boxes? Good question.
How many votes this private provider handled for the EU Ref? No one knows but Idox, not even the Elec Com as it's each council's private business.
13/17

BTW Did I mention Idox electoral services also cover handling electoral registers?
This document says Idox (like for the postal votes services) runs the whole electoral scanning service so the customer can focus on something else.
Was that already the case in 2016?
14/17

(Was there anything weird, or any problems will the registration process in 2016?)
Does anyone know who was involved?
Any third party provider? How many councils?

https://twitter.com/Julesmadworld/status/1048703076411088896

15/17

Idox also claims to handle postal packs - part of “running the whole postal vote service for the customer" package.
What does that cover?
Same thing than in 2018 ie "distribution included"?
Does anyone know how many votes never arrived?
(Is it weird there's no way to know?)
16/17

Idox is not the only electoral service provider, but according to its brochure, it used to handle 13m votes.
That's 1/3 of the votes.
(It bought Halarose since then -another election services company- so it handles more now.
&No one knows what it does exactly -but itself.
17/17

(Will come back later with a few things in how Matthew Elliott was a key player in manipulating the Scotref and No to AV campaigns, as well as the scheming to reduce the Electoral Commissions powers)

Note to people saying:
"This is irrelevant as in whatever other election, it was the same."
First: Idox was involved in whatever other election/ref -handling 13m votes since 2010.
So you're invoking elections Idox was involved in to say elections Idox was involved in are the norm

Links:
Idox buys Elec services firm, calls it "Strand":
stockopedia.com/content/idox-b…
Strand services:
bloomberg.com/research/stock…
Strand strike-off (now Idox election):
beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/022312…
Australian corporation Idox bought Strand from (in charge since 2008):
computershare.com/uk/our-story

Idox brochure:
pssd.idoxgroup.com/acton/attachme…

Relevant question here is -besides the 1m voices not counting-:
Is an unaccountable (not supervised by Elec Com) non-neutral 3rd party provider handling registers, PV sending, *unsealed* ballots boxes & disregarding Elec Com guidances OK?

Because it's not just about the past elections/refs.
It's also about the next ones.
This is about your votes being counted by a "global corps club", possibly with vested interests, unaccountable as the watchdog doesn't even know what they do: no scrutiny at the scale of the ctry

Last note:
The "innovating solution" bringing "speed, accuracy and transparency" also means that there is *no way to observer whether reported result is accurate*.
This would mean no more scrutiny whatsoever.
(Also, anything on the Internet can be hacked).

https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/880008556665110529

I realise I've not provided the link where the Elec Com says it does not supervise Idox, nor has the slightests idea of the extent of the electoral services it provides to the country. So here 👇
whatdotheyknow.com/request/idox_a…
+wouldn't say who ended up making result collation software?

Take a look at Elec com file on EU Ref result: you'll see missing data, numbers not adding up -& a warning they may not!
When there are totals -that have to come from somewhere.
Somewhere can but be the software whose provider's name wasn't given.
Shld I really not ask questions?

Don't take my word for it.
You can check the file here:
electoralcommission.org.uk/our-work/our-r…
("Referendum on the UK's membership of the EU").

The Elec Com doesn't have all the info.
Only a software provided by an unnamed provider has.
Means the Elec Com couldn't verify anything.
Is this OK?

Just going to leave that here.
(Note: Verified ballots paper = Number of ballots to be counted, counted before the vote. The number is supposed to match the sum of the Valid votes and the Rejected votes.)

Idox update: News on what they do (from them)
"We have more than 20 million electors registered" (roughly half the voters, and what do you mean, "we"?)
They do dispatch ballot papers: 3,6m contracted for the next election (roughly half the total)
1.9m votes e-counted in Scotland.

(Note on "We have more than 20 million electors registered" -Surely there is thorough supervision of the process by councils here, not like they just let Idox handle everything, not even taking a look at what they do?)

I also note that the fact Idox checks postal votes delivered in unsealed boxes with scanners, a process that may for whatever reason require a connection to the Internet, to say whether or not they are valid and can be counted does not appear on this promotional material.
Why?

Today I was told unsealed boxes were normal
1st I was told "Imagine if votes were put in bigger boxes to transport more", then someone else told me he had witnessed what the other guy imagined.
Except they're Glasgow Council ballot boxes, not "bigger boxes"
Unsealed&unidentified.

News from Newcastle-under-Lyme -raising one more time the question: Is the system fit to properly handle and supervise the outsourcing of the electoral process?

https://twitter.com/StillDelvingH/status/1091834866226872322