Times editor John Witherow is being cross-examined.
"She’s representing a group of people who feel worried about the trans lobby, she’s a very good journalist."
"Can't say" why Barrow would not tell the truth.
"I didn’t remember receiving any emails from Kathy, I get hundreds a day...a newspaper is a very busy place."
"The Times is not hostile to trans groups, there are some columnists that engage with trans groups, we've offered the trans lobby the opportunity to put their case."