Neighborhood center (Ideal Market shopping center, etc.)
Chris Meschuk takes this one, and I'm not entirely sure what he said, but maybe that instead of a broad height limit for the whole area, but maybe going higher toward Broadway, say, with lower toward the mts.
Meschuk: That's exactly the idea.
Would tackle feedback that projects often get that buildings are too boxy.
Gatza: These are pretty broad estimates, for comparison purposes only.
Some currently commercial/office zones could to be changed to residential. Higher density and more mixed-use. Has more potential for affordable housing.
Converting non-residential uses to housing, with higher density. Good potential for affordable housing; would allow 3-4 stories of height.
Option 2: Site 170-250; Area: 400 / 650 units total
Option 3: Site 230-300; Area 530 / 830 units
Again, want to emphasize that the area numbers are estimates over time given redevelopment. Not like the site, which is more immediate.
Yates: We should lay that out for the community.
"Go quick," says Mayor Jones. "Bc we're almost done listening."
Planning Board, City Council public hearings in August
Adoption by September
Gardner: We'd be providing human services, workforce services, etc. so it depends on what you put there.
James Butler (also from BoCo): We'd have to do a traffic study to know for sure, but looking at Longmont hub, we have a lot of clients that come in for services.
Butler: Transportation folks very much OK with reducing parking.
Gardner: As a principle, we're loath to build parking as well. Looking for a way to build min amount of parking would be a shared goal.
Butler: It's all a factor of how much density you're going for.
Morzel: Can you live without parking?
County: For our employees, yes. It's about our clients.
Butler: I think so.
Yates: How much by historic building?
Yates: So roughly 8 acres there that are buildable?
Butler: There's also flooding...
Yates: So more than 2, less than 10?
Carlisle: How many trips a day does the Longmont hub generate?
Carlisle: That's something I'd like to know.
Gardner: We could get that level of detail via a survey.
Nah, county says.
Gardner: We'd rather it happen sooner.
Meschuk: We did.
Carlisle: That's the kind of thing I'd like to hear more of before deciding anything.
"Yes," Morzel says.
Brockett, too, but wants to tweak the language to make sure it's a goal to keep shopping centers, not replace them with new development.
Young: I would respond, we did hear you. It's part of our job to make that tough decision.
Jones: "It's a hospital right now."
"I don't think we're going to spend $40M to keep it the way it is now."
"I can't see myself ultimately supporting 1, but 5 is the one I hate the worst." It's "too much office jammed in a neighborhood."
Wants Option 5 and Option 3 off the table. "That's too intense; it's too dense." (Option 3 specifically)
Brockett: 20 dwellings per acre, so high density. Other areas of it are 12 units per acre.
Young: The thing about 1 is that it doesn't meet our objective around affordable housing.
Staff: If there's one you don't want considered, then take it off.
Kurt Firnhaber: 170 is the number we put in there as a starting point.
Young, Nagle, Carlisle and Weaver want to eliminate Option 3 (the high density one).
So only Option 1 is dying.