An enlightened discussion in Marathi SM. Uber progressive Nikhil Joshi says - it is imperative to create divisions among Hindu castes to destroy Hindutva. As long as Marathas and Dalits are bound by thread of Hinduism, the country can’t be secular and BJP can’t be defeated. (1/N) 
Another Uber progressive weighs in to put the opinions of first one in proper perspective. He explains “What Nikhil meant was Marathas and Dalits should be bound together by the thread of humanity and constitution and not Hinduism.
But first Uber progressive seems it impossible
But first Uber progressive seems it impossible
First one negates this by saying it is not possible for Marathas-OBCs-Dalits to come together by thread of humanity and constitution until they are enlightened.
So enlightenment is a form of some progressive Baptism - agrees the original progressive.
So enlightenment is a form of some progressive Baptism - agrees the original progressive.
3rd Uber progressive asks why is it necessary to foster hatred between these castes?
Original UP says when fools unite, it becomes majoritarianism. Only way to defeat this majoritarianism of fools (aka Hinduism) is either social enlightenment of or hatred between various castes
Original UP says when fools unite, it becomes majoritarianism. Only way to defeat this majoritarianism of fools (aka Hinduism) is either social enlightenment of or hatred between various castes
I am actually thankful for these open and honest public admissions. The OP is close to Wagle, Ketkar, Chaudhary etc gang
These people at least honestly say it out in open the nature of discussions happening within the BIF camp
These people at least honestly say it out in open the nature of discussions happening within the BIF camp
What Pappu must have discussed with Cambridge Analytica is the “how” part of above goal. The “what” part is crystal clear.
CA is just representative. Whatever name this multiheaded BIF hydra will use - consider it that.
CA is just representative. Whatever name this multiheaded BIF hydra will use - consider it that.
All this is not a joke. It was a genuine and serious discussion.
Understand the point : even if stated end goal is destruction of casteism, they don’t want Hindutva to defeat the casteism. Because that will not be truly secular
They want humanity enforced by constitution to do it
If Hindutva succeeds in eliminating casteism - not acceptable
They want humanity enforced by constitution to do it
If Hindutva succeeds in eliminating casteism - not acceptable
I have been numb. We have had a similar theoretical exercise ten years ago. To game how other side thinks. Last 7 years have been full of optimism hence I was more or less blinded to these vectors. Also they were clueless after 2014 shocker. They have found bearings it seems.
The thrust of the vector is - see how the so called “Hindu Unity” is detrimental to our caste group interests.
Caste is not the only thrust. Sabarimala - see how Hindu Unity is unjust for women.
See how Hindu unity is unjust for free press/creative ppl/what not.
Caste is not the only thrust. Sabarimala - see how Hindu Unity is unjust for women.
See how Hindu unity is unjust for free press/creative ppl/what not.
Ok. The original post on FB is now either deleted or hidden from public view.
For all those wondering where all such theories come in - this is communism 1.0
Missed one important tidbit.
The original progressive says - “Only the unity of enlightened people is worth it. If “non-enlightened” people unite, the result is for everyone to see.”
Basically saying Hindus uniting are unwashed ignorant barbarians who need a civilising touch.
The original progressive says - “Only the unity of enlightened people is worth it. If “non-enlightened” people unite, the result is for everyone to see.”
Basically saying Hindus uniting are unwashed ignorant barbarians who need a civilising touch.
The stated aim is to dismantle all Organized religions. But it primarily manifested itself in India as dismantling dharma.
