This article believes that silencing of female nurses by the "patriarchy" is WORSE than the genital mutilation of boys!
Not once does the author address the issue of #circumcision from the infant's perspective, being a violation of consent and bodily integrity. #i2
Not once does the author address the issue of #circumcision from the infant's perspective, being a violation of consent and bodily integrity. #i2
Why are you denying the humanity of African-American men who hate #circumcision like @quill_monger, @LaurenVino?
It's funny how you're trying not to be racist, but by denying their existence, you are racist.
> the manosphere is exclusively the domain of miserable white men
It's funny how you're trying not to be racist, but by denying their existence, you are racist.
> the manosphere is exclusively the domain of miserable white men
There are extremists in feminism, extremists in animal rights, extremists in environmentalism, so on.
If all intactivists are this way, then all feminists are misandrists. Tit for tat.
> Members of the impassioned anti-circumcision, or intactivist movement, took it from there
If all intactivists are this way, then all feminists are misandrists. Tit for tat.
> Members of the impassioned anti-circumcision, or intactivist movement, took it from there
Once again, completely dehumanizing Marilyn Milos or Carole Anne Babyak, the latter started the @BloodstainedMen with @Brother_K_BSM. Did you do any research?
> intactivism has been predominantly represented by men protesting in white pants with blood-stained crotches
> intactivism has been predominantly represented by men protesting in white pants with blood-stained crotches
Poor attempt at wit or referring to intact men?
I absolutely LOVE the dismissal of intact intactivist men, especially when cutters try to delegitimize me by assuming I have a foreskin. Alright, why?
> or at the very least, guys with some foreskin in the game
I absolutely LOVE the dismissal of intact intactivist men, especially when cutters try to delegitimize me by assuming I have a foreskin. Alright, why?
> or at the very least, guys with some foreskin in the game
If anything, men who kept their foreskins are a testament to what was lost in cut men. Yes, they don't have the visceral, personal fury of having their genitals mutilated, but neither do women.
If you're going to delegitimize @CriticalOfAll & more, do the same to these women.
If you're going to delegitimize @CriticalOfAll & more, do the same to these women.
FEMALE doctors who oppose circumcision are hard to find! Cite @DrJenGunter or @DrChaya. Maybe it's doctors vs. nurses?
But no:
Men bad women good
Men bad women good!
> Female nurses who oppose the procedure are easy to find, but male doctors who feel the same are much more rare
But no:
Men bad women good
Men bad women good!
> Female nurses who oppose the procedure are easy to find, but male doctors who feel the same are much more rare
I thought feminists believed that 50% of nurses should be women and 50% should be men based on gender quotas.
Shouldn't some of those nurses also be men?
> And as more women join the intactivist movement, more nurses are becoming moles in the medical community.
Shouldn't some of those nurses also be men?
> And as more women join the intactivist movement, more nurses are becoming moles in the medical community.
The male doctor who turned to Marilyn Milos said, "there's no medical reason for doing this".
Not all male doctors are the same.
> “The doctor performing the circumcision told me I was ridiculous and that I should find a new career,” she recalls.
Not all male doctors are the same.
> “The doctor performing the circumcision told me I was ridiculous and that I should find a new career,” she recalls.
Hypospadias can be fixed without #circumcision.
> They’re also against circumcisions due to hypospadias, a rare condition where the opening of the penis is on the underside instead of the tip
> They’re also against circumcisions due to hypospadias, a rare condition where the opening of the penis is on the underside instead of the tip
Everyone say it with me:
Children can't be diagnosed with phimosis!
Children can't be diagnosed with phimosis!
Children can't be diagnosed with phimosis!
Children have PHYSIOLOGICAL not PATHOLOGICAL #phimosis.
> and phimosis, or when the foreskin is too tight
Children can't be diagnosed with phimosis!
Children can't be diagnosed with phimosis!
Children can't be diagnosed with phimosis!
Children have PHYSIOLOGICAL not PATHOLOGICAL #phimosis.
> and phimosis, or when the foreskin is too tight
Doctor-recommended circumcisions are based purely on $$$$$$$$$$.
> To them, doctor-recommended circumcisions are based purely on ignorance.
> To them, doctor-recommended circumcisions are based purely on ignorance.
Retracting boys prematurely is what changes physiological (born with) phimosis into pathological (diseased) phimosis.
> cleaning with water only and not retracting until puberty
> cleaning with water only and not retracting until puberty
As stated, treat UTIs with antibiotics because by the time he gets out of diapers, he most likely won't have UTIs anymore.
If he does, wait until he consents.
> even in the cases of boys with chronic UTIs, intactivist nurses still don’t believe that circumcision is the solution
If he does, wait until he consents.
> even in the cases of boys with chronic UTIs, intactivist nurses still don’t believe that circumcision is the solution
There are four types of FGM. Do we all think the author is referring to the least severe form of #FGM, or the most severe, infibulation?
Of course, the latter.
> The claim that male circumcision is the same as female genital mutilation is fundamental to intactivist rhetoric
Of course, the latter.
> The claim that male circumcision is the same as female genital mutilation is fundamental to intactivist rhetoric
Even in infibulation, #FGM does not make girls infertile. Maybe some, but not all. Castration makes ALL boys infertile.
Total #castration is objectively WORSE than #FGM.
> It’s much more comparable to full castration.
Total #castration is objectively WORSE than #FGM.
> It’s much more comparable to full castration.
The foreskin is equivalent to the clitoral hood, and the glans clitoris is equivalent to the ridged bands and the frenulum of the penis.
Girls without a glans clitoris can orgasm vaginally, just as cut men can still orgasm.
> referred to the clitoris as the “female foreskin”
Girls without a glans clitoris can orgasm vaginally, just as cut men can still orgasm.
> referred to the clitoris as the “female foreskin”
#Circumcision is sexual assault; it is literally a violent act upon the sexual organs.
> Another troublesome comparison is to that of rape.
> Another troublesome comparison is to that of rape.
If there's nothing wrong with #circumcision, then there's nothing wrong with date #rape.
> The nurses not only believe that the trauma of circumcision and the trauma of rape is the same
> The nurses not only believe that the trauma of circumcision and the trauma of rape is the same
I agree with this. I never have said #circumcision is #rape and never will say circumcision is rape. I'll ask what the difference between the two is.
> “I want people to listen to the facts, and to do that, you have to be careful with the language you use or you lose people.”
> “I want people to listen to the facts, and to do that, you have to be careful with the language you use or you lose people.”
Andrea Tran is not an intactivist and not against #circumcision.
This is when Andrew Yang came out against circumcision, but brit milah is sacred.
> she focuses her energy on convincing them to be there for the procedure to comfort the child, rather than trying to stop them.
This is when Andrew Yang came out against circumcision, but brit milah is sacred.
> she focuses her energy on convincing them to be there for the procedure to comfort the child, rather than trying to stop them.
Conflicting information FROM YOU Andrea, FROM YOU.
You're the one saying it's fine to circumcise children, as long as they're comfortable. It's a contradiction.
> It was the last day of class, and she still regrets letting those parents go home with conflicting information.
You're the one saying it's fine to circumcise children, as long as they're comfortable. It's a contradiction.
> It was the last day of class, and she still regrets letting those parents go home with conflicting information.
Already stated.
> Circumcision generates a lot of money
Does that include female doctors?
> a doctor-size ego rarely believes it’s wrong
> Circumcision generates a lot of money
Does that include female doctors?
> a doctor-size ego rarely believes it’s wrong
So doctors can't be female, huh @LaurenVino?
That's the only thing you've said in this article:
Men are bad, women are saviors.
QED
> More largely, too, it fits the patriarchal dynamic that’s existed in medicine for some time: Male doctors think they know better
That's the only thing you've said in this article:
Men are bad, women are saviors.
QED
> More largely, too, it fits the patriarchal dynamic that’s existed in medicine for some time: Male doctors think they know better
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