Thread by @tsunamino

Yesterday on BART I heard one Asian lady engineer give negotiation advice to her friend that was so egregiously wrong, I almost committed a SF atrocity and talked to them

But my stop was next so, in true SF fashion, here’s a tweet thread /1

The first Asian woman seemed to be interviewing for her first engineering job and didn’t know how to negotiate. She wanted $10k more

Her friend proceeded to talk her out of it because “they spend so much time and money to interview YOU there isn’t much left” /2

She then said it would be better if her friend DIDNT negotiate because she would have more leverage at her first review - 6 months or a year down the road - because of all the hard work she would have to show /3

Friends. Ladies. Folx. For the love of god, DO NOT DO THIS /4

I find this mentality in a lot of other Asian folk, women especially, that if we work hard enough, we will eventually get rewarded.

NO. THIS DOES NOT WORK. THERE IS A BAMBOO GLASS CEILING FOR A FREAKING REASON /5

As a hiring manager I can tell you this: there are salary bands. There’s an expected amount that I can pay you. You can always ask for things like wfh days, stock, or title bumps /6

If you’re gonna ask for above the salary band, it probably wasn’t a good fit or our expectations are vastly out of alignment. But you should always ALWAYS ask for more. ALWAYS negotiate /7

Because guess who is asking for more? White men.

And if they can ask for more money then so can you

Channel that inner, overly confident white male and ask for what *he* thinks he deserves.

Or ask a white male friend for what he would ask for /8

Having a “brosona” comes in handy at times like this because it makes it easier to ask for something you might be hesitant to ask for. What would @BROSEPHSPEAKS feel he deserves? Ask for that much /9

Also as a hiring manager I can tell you that you aren’t wasting my money by interviewing. That’s just completely false

Asian women in particular, I feel, are worried about being a “burden” on others. You aren’t! I want you here! I am investing in you & you deserve to be here /10

Lastly, compounded raises ARE REAL. Raised are PERCENTAGE based on your starting salary

If you don’t negotiate, no matter how much you get after a year, it will still be less than what you could’ve gotten (and likely the dudes in your company already did get) /11

So please negotiate. Do it for your brosona. Do it for your family. Do it for the rest of us WOC

Because I guarantee you the white dudes are doing it, so why not get what you deserve? /fin