Thread by @hopefirenink

Alright boys.
Lets chat.
I watch how you guys feel the need to just endlessly give my girl @emrazz shit. (as well as other feminists)
You argue semantics. Let's discuss this shit once and for all. 1/

You boo hoo about how men are victims too all without just acknowledging rape/hassarssment/assault are bad things. TO ANY PERSON. Perhaps instead of adding your whataboutism you try a new appproach. 2/

Are you a victim? Share your story. We will support you. Its not like we don't believe that men can also be victims. 3/

Just ask Gym Jordan. We get it. We really do and we also think it is fucking shameful. We condemn ALL rape and sexual assault. FULL FUCKING STOP. 4/

If you want our empathy for your perils, voice them. Have dialogue. Don't come with hostility. Come with understanding. 5/

Unless your peril is you cant get women to fuck you. That's on you guy. Perhaps try new tactics. Maybe sending dick pics and being an argumentive douche is a bad approach. Just an observation. 6/

But when you just claim, well it happens to us too, you aren't hearing it. And unless you are also a victim, your just talking and not really adding to the conversation but just wanting to be a douche.
This tactic is your way of minimalizing the female experience. 7/

How about equate to it. Relate to it. Than maybe start constructive dialogue instead of being defensive douchnozzle. 8/

Also,we get that it happens to men, however the numbers are a bit off. You also don't have to endure just trying to go jogging, or grocery shopping, or a numerous amount of life things, and having someone sexualize & see you as meat rather than acknowledge you are a huma being 9/

Let's look at female strip clubs vs male strip clubs.
Women go to male strip clubs and its sorta a party mentality. Woohoos. Lots of happy and mingling.
At a gentelmans club? Jesus, it's like watching lions watch a herd of antelope. 10/

I get your bound by your masculinity to attempt to save face but I am curious, if you do not partake in the behaviors, why in fucks name do you feel the need to get all up in her mentions with your rediculous banter? Maybe don't follow her anyore. 11/

Why are you all so fuckng angry? Is it because the popular girl didn't want to go to prom with you? Get over it. Rejection from the opposite sex is normal for all of us.
true rejections is when a toddler wont high 5 you back. That shit is tradgic. 12/

Are you a victim of toxic social norms of masculinity? I'm sorry for that but that's not a situation women created. Men did. Like all the systems. 13/

Wage inequality from men to women? More men are the bosses and not because they deserve it or work harder than a woman but that's just the system that has been created in this country and many others around the world for whatever reason. 14/

More men in the military? Well that's a new concept in the USA. However, the boys club still exist and women do not have it easy as their "brothers in arms" can also be raging testosterone junkies who only harass and yes, rape The statistics are scary. 15/

Perhaps it stems from ancient times when women were allowed to fight in wars and were held is very high standards. Men knew what they were capable of it and they found it a bit terrifying as it challanged their superiority complex. 16/

So over time, men took control and slowly pushed women to the back to do what they saw as "womans work" 17/

Men decided this. And their decision was directly related to a sort of fear of losing their masculinity, a primal instinct by the way. It's when it hits the toxic levels it becomes a fucking nuisance. 18/

So when you start the "we work more dangerous jobs and women in the military, remember these are new oppurtunites to us. 19/

During WW2 we had the oppurtunities for more dangerous jobs and we actually kicked ass at them, but when the war was over, men returned and reclaimed what they felt was rightfully theirs. And, as in that time most industry was run by men, so it was done. 20/

OK, your next arguement I love seeing.
But what is a girl puts herself in a questionable situation? She has to take responsibility for that?
Stop with that shit. 21/

Yea, sometimes we end up in less that perfect settings. Sometimes we wer sexy clothes so we can feel good. However, none of this is a green light for you to take something that is not offered to you. Think of it as theft. Not ok. Its a violation of privacy. 22/

You'd be pissed of someone came to your house and stole all your shit. It's not different except that you can get your stuff back.....after rape, its hard to get back what was taken, as it is quite literally a pice of our very essence of being. 23/

I don't give a fuck that she was flirting and you weremaking out on the couch for hours. At any time, either of you can decide you really don't want it to go fucrther and the other person should comply. FULL FUCKING STOP! 24/

Next arguement is the blurred lines of consent.
Things that also mean NO
1. Please stop.
2. Don't
3. I'm sorry but really don't want to go any further.
4. Get off me.
5. Silence because of inability to speak due intoxicants 25/

Also there is body language. It speak volumes.. See those tears in her eyes, she's probably not into it.
Feel her pushing you away, go away
see her playing dead and avoiding eye contact. It's a cue.
Come on. Just pay attention. 26/

Heres the thing, we are people. Individuals. Not possessions. We are not your play things designed for your pleasure. We are not subordinates. We don't want more than you....we just want to be seen as equals. That's it. We dont want to matter more, we just want to matter. 27/

We want you to recognize that life with a vagina can be challenging because some men kinda fucking suck and cannot break from their place of entitlement over females. 28/

We know men have challanges too but most of her posts are about the female experiences.
Want to talk of your experiences go for it. But this isn't a competition. And maybe have it with other men as they are the ones who created the "male gender expectations" 29/

We didn't created the system but we are trying to move forward from it. You know, evolve. It is a necessary thing for the sustainabilty of the species. 30/

Just some shit to think about.
And before any of you try the we came from your rib bullshit. Only 1 woman in some rediculous biblical fable came from rib.
Every man thereafter, came from our vaginas. 31/

So yea. That's my rant.
Be better fuckers.
We understand your perils. We are only asking for some fucking understanding of ours too.
But your gender made the rules. If you want to direct your anger somewhere, it should be at other men. 32/

If your just here to stir shit because it gives you some pervese thrill, seek therapy. Go outside, There is a whole interesting world out there. Go check it out. Travel. Laugh. Find bliss. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and go live. Life is a verb, not a noun.
Good luck!
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sorry about my typos.
So don't @ me about them fuckers!

Thanks so much for the love folks.
And a huge shout out for looking past my lack of editing and seeing the point I was making.
I'm sorta mortified because I failed to edit properly, and allowed so many grammatical and spelling errors.
But again, thank you for understanding.

And for all the guys who jumped into my mentions with, feminists don't care about assault against men and so on.
Here. Look.
One of my favorite feminist ladies addressing just that issue.
Thank you @iamsambee