Thread by @EveKeneinan

The so-called "culture war" is clearly becoming a WORLDVIEW WAR. One faction believes, often with religious conviction, that ALL HUMAN INTERACTIONS reduce to POWER STRUGGLES between IDENTITY GROUPS.

The other side thinks this is FALSE and INSANE, as a view of the world.

Needless to say, it is a false and insane view of the world. To reduce PERSONS to IDENTITY GROUPS is not only morally bad (e.g. reducing someone to their racial identity JUST IS racism), but FALSE (persons cannot be reduced to identity groups; they are not defined like that).

When you see literally all things through the lens of POWER and regard IDENTITY TRIBES as always at war, and always in a dichotomy of EVIL / GOOD (that is OPPRESSOR / OPPRESSED) then EVERYTHING becomes a morality play. That's why these people hate jokes. Jokes can't just be funny

This is also why they are moral authoritarians and tyrants. They are always moral busybodies because, through their lens, EVERYTHING is oppression.

Here's Anita Sarkeesian, after she drank the Kool Aid; and C. S. Lewis about Moral Busybodies.

See how well those pair?
Anita: EVERYTHING is sexist/racist/homophobic and YOU HAVE TO point it ALL out.
Lewis: They will NEVER stop TORMENTING us.

George Washington said this:

I'm afraid America has failed. It was the most remarkable experiment with human freedom and liberty yet undertaken on earth, but human beings are fallen creatures, and liberty ALWAYS devolves into license and moral anarchy.

Human nature also abhors anarchy. So it WILL eventually fill it with something. Hedonism can only go on for so long, before *something* appears on the scene to replace the old moral and religious values.

It isn't like we didn't TRY THIS pretty close to exactly 100 years ago. We tried Fascism and Communism. Yay. See how well THOSE worked out.

Oh, but Social Justice will be different! It will ACTUALLY bring about utopia.

Uh huh. Right. Sure it will.

So we have moral busybodies who believe everything is power who WILL NOT STOP in their quest to TAKE AS MUCH POWER AS THEY CAN in order to impose their totalitarian moral vision on EVERYONE—in the name of "social justice" of course, so BY DEFINITION their tyranny is MORAL.

Seriously, Some of these people think that they are on the side of justice for NO OTHER REASON than that the term "justice" appears in the phrase "social justice," like that idiot who was dumping his best friend because he wasn't progressive enough:

"Being opposed to social justice is bad because justice is in the name so it is being against justice derp derp derp."

Idiot.

You can put two words together so that the first UTTERLY DESTROYS the second, e.g. "Communist ethics."

At least Lukács understood that "communist ethics" meant the UTTER REJECTION OF ALL ETHICS in the name of the ideal (i.e. the utopian fantasy).

"Social" Justice is NOT justice. The "social" part MEANS THAT it does not give a fuck about actual PERSONS.

We just saw the LGBT group at Goldsmith's University in the UK actually DEFEND Stalin's gulags—and call for the internment of lesbians therein, excuse me, "TERFs."

I despise TERFs, but I'd rather die than allow Social Justice Gulags.

You might say "These were just some dumb college kids." Maybe. But what happens if enough of these people GAIN POWER?

The most likely next Nazi-like mass murder, complete with gulags and death camps, will be an "ideologicide," in which all Nazis are killed.

"Nazi" being understood as anyone not a member of The Social Justice Party, of course. The Party is all.

Obviously I hope it won't come to war, but it might, even if not for a while yet.

I'm not kidding in my profile. Iūstitia Sociālis dēlenda est.

Social Justice must be destroyed.

I feel that in my bones as much as Cato did that, no matter what, Carthage must be destroyed.

Iūstitia Sociālis dēlenda est. Why? Because it is all or nothing. They will never, ever stop. They will take an inch and then more and more and more. It is baked into their ideology. They will NEVER leave others alone.

I ran across this, while looking for that other screenshot. Another philosopher who agrees with me about the problem—although not the solution.

Intersectionality (i.e. Social Justice) has "an insatiable lust for power" and "an ungainsayable moral authority."

Yup. Gary's right.

Where Gary and I differ, primarily, is that Gary sees Social Justice as anathema to liberalism, which he wishes to preserve. I, on the other hand, see liberalism of Gary's sort as the inevitable incubator of Intersectionality/Social Justice.

I'm with Plato. Gary's with Mill.

Sometimes historical accidents reveal profound truths. One of these is that Mill and Marx both liked to write in the British Museum. They probably saw one another numerous times. Mill's liberalism isn't very far from Marx's revolutionary evil.

Just as Marxism likes to try to pass itself off as "justice for the oppressed working class," Millianism (a better term that "liberalism") likes to pass itself off as "neutral," in much the same way secularism does—when they are anything BUT neutral.

Orwell's dictum "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others" applies to both.

Do you think "liberalism" is automatically about true liberty, because it is in the name? That is the same argument that Social Justice is necessarily about justice—it's in the name!

Two things to reflect upon:

Again, a simple bit of advice, which human beings seem remarkable deficient in.

Do not take everything people say at face value, especially not great philosophers.

Mill wrote a treatise On Liberty, tell us he was pro-liberty. But Marx said the same thing.