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Some men can't come during sex (however long they fuck) UNLESS they masturbate. When i first heard this I found it to be pretty incredible, because I couldn't imagine wanting to, or needing to, jerk yourself off, when you have a nice, hopefully tight, pussy, to pop your load into
I think that holding off coming eventually works against the guy in that it makes it harder for them to come under normal fucking conditions. 2/
I take responsibility for my own orgasms and don't require anybody holding off or doing anything specifically geared to make me come.
While I understand, at least in theory, the idea of waiting, if possible, for the woman to come first, nevertheless, like any well-intentioned idea, I think it doesn't work for anybody when carried to extremes..
For one thing, it seems artificial and contrived. For another, it takes the spontaneity and joy out of fucking, and if that's the case, then what's the purpose?
Especially given the availability of various toys to encourage and facilitate coming, I don't see any point in having to hold off coming in order to allow your partner to go first, as it were.
As the great Zen Master Wanka Roshi said,

"When hungry eat. When coming come. Just don't wobble."
Today's woman do not need men to pester them. A friend here told me that all her friends have vibrators and do not need men to satisfy them. They have put men on the do not call list. 😂😂
Having to depend on somebody else for your orgasms is as sure fire formula for anguish and anxiety, not to mention pain and suffering.
I really love and appreciate women who not only can get themselves off without any help from their partner, and actually PREFER doing it that way.

This makes it much easier for men to take their 30 second break & get back to the football game before the start of the second half.
I like everybody to be happy.

And the only way to do that, in my opinion, is not to depend on anybody.

For ANYTHING.

That is the only real peace of mind and tranquility of being, as far as I can tell.
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