I’ll look at the transcript tonight and make sure I include it in the write up.
PG when you were dealing with the analysis of the Patny situation you didn’t mention stamps anywhere or calls to the NBSC - any reason? They’re pretty prominent features of the case...
PG you were in court when you heard a positive allegation of dishonesty put to Mr Patny, but you don’t allege criminality in your WS. Is that because you don’t believe it was what he was doing?
AB I was looking at...
PG you’ll recall when he noticed the inflated stamps he called up and they took him through some complicated steps. You could have called up the Credence data and seen...
PG so at that data a Credence report should have been requested. It would have shown key strokes and would have shown powerful evidence of his dishonesty.
AB well possibly
PG and yet it was Mr Patny who was chasing all this data, wasn’t it? Not the Post Office. Why wasn’t the credence data looked at?
AB well the helpline don’t use credence they use Horace, but if mr patny asked for the data...
[I wondered why Mr Patny was accused of a criminal offence in court the other day postofficetrial.com/2019/03/why-di… - I’m still no wiser]
AB there was no reversal which was why we issued a TC. Had he reversed and we issued a TC...
PG he forgot to reverse. Then reversed after 7pm. Should he have been told about the MoneyGram doubling issue? The PO is not very forthcoming on giving SPMs info on errors is it?
PG does the PO suffer from user error...
AB yes in some instances yes I do
PG okay let’s go back to Angela Burke’s case where the PO has accepted she is not at fault. She receives a note with the TC saying ...
AB it’s a standard thing.
PG finishes. PO QC on his feet. We are straight into the MoneyGram issue re Mr Patny’s doubling cancelled transaction.
POQC “MoneyGram Issue” goes to explain the timeout issue - leads to no record of transaction at the counter even if one had taken place.
AB depends at what stage of the transaction it cancels. If the transaction is aborted before it’s registered there would be no effect.
POQC if it says transaction aborted before completion?
AB no effect
J well hang on a minute the document says it may or may not affect branch transactions, are you saying it won’t in this case or every case?
AB if it is before completion then no effect, but if there is a reversal it could affect it depending on if...
POQC thank you.
POQC takes AB onto reconciliation in MoneyGram doc. “Duplicate transactions are created in MG systems” so in whose system is the duplicate transactions being created
AB in MG’s
POQC any suggestion it would create a duplicate transaction...
AB not from this no.
POQC okay let’s go onto Dalmellington bug and the Callender Square bug in relation to Mr Latif as Mr Green suggested you should have had it mind. This is a Fujitsu KEL relating to the Dalmellington bug. Please read it.
POQC did you need to have it in your mind?
POQC is it...
POQC what is the Dalmellington bug
Ab explains about too much money going into a stock unit
POQC is that a similar bug to the one Mr Latif complaining about?
POQC should you have borne that in mind?
POQC let’s get...
POQC it was discovered in 2005 and fixed in 2006. When was Mr Latif’s statement?
[AB refers to her statement]
POQC it’s 2015. Mr Coyne says it occured in legacy horizon...
AB don’t know, don’t think so
POQC do you think you should have actively borne in mind Callender Square bug?
POQC okay - re Mr Latif you said he should have kept his discontinued session receipt. Why?
AB it tells him what to do...
POQC and when the SPM calls the helpline is it useful if the SPM has the receipt?
AB explains it is and how it is.
POQC we move on to the Helen Rose report. [blog on it here: postofficetrial.com/2019/03/miscar…]
AB it is correspondence between Helen Rose and Gareth Jenkins.
POQC and that email was written six months before the report was written.
POQC if we look further down we see the evidence a receipt was generated by that session, not explicitly, but it was the only receipt...
AB that it says a receipt WAS produced.
POQC thank you
Re-examination will continue after lunch for a short period.