Thread by @travisdon1981

@WhoWouldWin13 If this was the DC comics version of Catwoman, I'd have to go with her; the DC comics version has peak human physicality, being able to lift 800 pounds over her head and move faster than an Olympic sprinter. This would make her far stronger and more formidable than even WWE's

@WhoWouldWin13 Brock Lesnar or Big Show (Or dare I say it, the late Andre the Giant).

However, this is the Batman Returns version, and judging by her movements in the film, this Catwoman has the athleticism of a world class athlete...but not a person at comic-book-level peak human

@WhoWouldWin13 Physicality. Thus, she is far less formidable.

And phyisically, against Ronda rousey, she fails miserably.

Yes, Selina can take some damage (though her "9 lives" ability doesn't equate to super durability), Ronda has had bone marrow taken out of her hips in surgery...without

@WhoWouldWin13 anesthetic. To put this into perspective, Mark Henry, WWE's "world's strongest man" (400 pound ex Olympic weight lifter, professional strongman champion) had that same surgery without anesthetic, and when he woke up...he begged to be put back under. He begged to be put to sleep

@WhoWouldWin13 rather than feel that kind of pain.

Ronda took that pain...in surgery, without anesthetic...and got through it.

That shows an amazingly high tolerance for pain.
Part of this is due to female anatomy (in some studies, women have been shown to have a higher tolerance for pain

@WhoWouldWin13 than men), but...this is unheard of.
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@WhoWouldWin13 Given this, I doubt that Catwoman's claws and bull whip will do anything to stop her. Indeed, it'd just tick her off.

Ronda likewise has a superior physique. Compare the two.

@WhoWouldWin13 Now, you may wonder, why is Ronda so powerfully built? Indeed, why is she so strong that, when she sparred with other mma fighters in grappling, she had to spar with men (she kept accidentally hurting the women fighters she sparred with)?
The answer is ontogeny.

@WhoWouldWin13 Ronda was into competitive swimming as a child, and later at about 11 or 12 she entered the world of Judo. This had an effect that left her arms powerful (which she hid in highschool with thick sweaters, to avoid teasing) and having a bull neck. It also left her with a strength

@WhoWouldWin13 that far outclassed other girls who grew up playing videos games and talking endlessly on their cell phones.

In other words, she USED her body.
And the more physical activity you do when you are young, the more physical capability you have as an adult.
This is why Neanderthals

@WhoWouldWin13 were 2-3 times stronger than modern humans (at least), and why a Neanderthal woman would have snapped the arm of a male heavyweight arm wrestling champion like John Brzenk. This is why workers in the industrial revolution worked all day with 40 pound sledgehammers and

@WhoWouldWin13 the strongmen of old could outdo any modern day powerlifter or strongman.

Catwoman obviously doesn't have that kind of upbringing.
And let's also remember that, whole Catwoman has some superb striking skills, Ronda knows both striking and grappling. MMA fighters learn various

@WhoWouldWin13 fighting disciplines in order to compete. Judo, freestyle wrestling, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, and other grappling arts. combining them into a fighting style that is superior to most, if not all, grappling disciplines.

Catwoman has never been shown in "Batman Returns" to have

@WhoWouldWin13 grappling ability.

True, she has more combat experience, in terms of life or death fighting (i.e.. not sports fighting), But Ronda actually has experience in this nonetheless, taking down two large men in a movie theatre who picked a fight with her.

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@WhoWouldWin13 Indeed, she also fought one of her boyfriends twice in one night, when she discovered that he was taking nude pics of her while she slept. He tried to bar her way, saying "Yo0u ain't going anywhere!" and she hurt him. He jumped into her car when she tried to drive away and...

@WhoWouldWin13 ...once again, she hurt him.

Bad.

Ronda's main weakness in this current fight is that she has no weapons other than her body, while Catwoman has a bullwhip, metal claws and thick shoes (Fantastic for kicking). However, she does have gloves, which will keep her from breaking

@WhoWouldWin13 her fingerbones when she punches. This is why Boxers and MMA Fighters wear gloves; their enormous punching power, combined with a skull being toucher than finger bones, results in the potential for broken fingers. And Ronda's were the smallest in the UFC.

She's also one of the

@WhoWouldWin13 all-time hardest hitters in the history of UFC women's bantamweight history, her punching power comparable to getting hit in the face with two textbooks.

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@WhoWouldWin13 Combined with a tiny, durable fist...that makes for a VERY penetrating punch.

True, The Burtonverse Batman (which hits harder than Rousey) swatted Catwoman, only for her to get up, he nevertheless didn't hit her with full force, or with a jab, hook or uppercut.

@WhoWouldWin13 Ronda, however, will potentially nail her every 3 seconds with a heavy punch.

And let's not forget her armbar...
Yes, she pulled Miesha Tate's arm out of freaking socket!!!!

@WhoWouldWin13 Catwoman does have 9 lives, as noted above, but...this doesn't mean she wins every fight while she has those 9 lives. That power saves her from death, not from defeat or a TKO, or an armbar for that matter (Batman beat her while she still had several lives left).
Thus, I conclude

@WhoWouldWin13 that......

"ROWDY" RONDA ROUSEY COLLECTS CATWOMAN'S ARMS!!!!!!!

@WhoWouldWin13 Meant to write *with* anesthetic here. Mark Henry was put under before surgery.

Ronda wasn't. She had nothing for pain, and she took it.

@WhoWouldWin13 @thethreadreader untoll please