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There's a discussion now about whether Manafort was trying to help Russian intelligence or whether he was just trying to make money or get out of under debts. This is very much beside the point. I don't think anyone thinks Paulie is a Russian nationalist. Of course it was ...
2/ about money. What about Robert Hansen? It was about money for him too. Paul did this. He did it knowingly. Intelligence agents mainly work with folks like Paul. It is pretty clear that that's just why Paul went for the gig with Trump. Because he knew it could be a new ...
3/ business model with his friends in Russia and Ukraine.
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Josh Marshall
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As important, perhaps more important than the translator notes is that that meeting w Tillerson and Putin wasn’t enough for Trump. He felt the need for a SECOND meeting at the gala dinner that evening at which no Americans were present at all. That was a lengthy meeting.
2/ As I explain here, there’s a decent circumstantial argument that at that truly private meeting, Putin helped him concoct the cover story he gave the Times the next day in response to the then breaking Trump Tower meeting story. (Sub req) talkingpointsmemo.com/prime-beta/did…
3/ Relevant point Trump felt the need to have an additional meeting with Putin with no Americans at all. Not even a translator. They used Putin’s.
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Josh Marshall
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Josh, my point is this. There was never a serious question of an actual compromise or intent to compromise classified data. It was a very DC kind of game being played. It was easy to launch into it, easy to talk about, etc all because the stakes and consequences were close to ...
2/ nil. As Comey himself said, whether to charge her with something wasn’t even a close call. The fact that what Trump was suspected of was infinitely more grave paradoxically HELPED him because investigating something like that is NOT standard DC fare. It’s almost ...
3/ Unimaginable.
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Others have noted. But remember. We already knew that Manafort owed millions to Deripaska, oligarch tight w Putin. Manafort told Kilimnik to offer Deripaska campaign briefings as a way to maybe work off some of the debt or at least get some breathing room over the debt.
2/ Now we learn that Manafort shared polling data with Kilimnik. Why? To use in Ukraine? Please. Polling data can mean a vast range of things. In theory it could be as simple as horse race toplines. But that’s unlikely. How much more we don’t know.
3/ But we already know that Manafort was using Kilimnik as a go between to offer campaign info to Deripaska, the oligarch he owed 20 mill to. Not remotely a stretch to think that’s right where this “polling data” went.
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Joseph Britt
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The major news of today really wasn’t Trump’s awful speech. It’s that his campaign manager was funneling polling data to the Russians during the campaign. #Manafort nytimes.com/2019/01/08/us/…
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Louise Mensch
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Note: the fauxdacted #Manafort filings say that Manafort met the GRU in Spain to discuss a "Ukranian peace plan".

You know who else worked on a "Ukranian peace plan"?

Michael Cohen. patribotics.blog/2018/12/07/mic…
2. The no doubt deliberate fauxdactions warn others what OSC wants hidden.

Important in that they show what OSC is presently trying to redact:

1. A meeting in Spain with the GRU
2. About the Ukr plan
3. Handed Trump polling data over
4. Ongoing contacts w Trump campaign
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a) that Manafort continued to act for Trump
b) that in that capacity he received polling help from Russian intelligence
c) in exchange for the same sanctions relief on Ukraine Cohen was working on

That's collusion.
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Dr. Dena Grayson
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In emails to “former” #Russian🇷🇺spy Konstantin Kilimnik, Paul Manafort offered Oleg Deripaska “private briefings” on Trump’s campaign to “get whole.” Manafort’s Moscow contact “our friend V” now revealed as ANOTHER “former” #Russian🇷🇺spy Victor Boyarkin.🙄
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“Former” #Russian🇷🇺spy Boyarkin says his acquaintance with Manafort goes back to 2006, when Deripaska asked them to help Montenegro achieve independence in the Balkans.🤨

cc @thespybrief

During the 2016 campaign, Boyarkin says it fell to him to collect the $19 million debt that Manafort owed Deripaska. “I came down on him hard.”🤔

Manafort was broke, so instead of money, he offered “private briefings” to Deripaska via Boyarkin to “get whole.”🙄

#TrumpRussia
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#Russian🇷🇺diplomats held secret talks in London last year and plotted to smuggle Julian Assange out of #Ecuador’s London embassy in a diplomatic vehicle and transport him to #Russia.

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theguardian.com/world/2018/sep…
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Narváez previously tried to help Edward Snowden👉🏼travelled to Moscow & gave Snowden a “safe-conduct“ document.🙄

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THREAD: @realDonaldTrump now *admits* that Don Jr sought Clinton dirt at his meeting w/the #Russian🇷🇺”lawyer”/spy & a “former” GRU military intel officer.

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Kushner “forgot” (= #felony) to disclose the meeting *3 separate times* on his SF-86, and Jr & his father, Trump, LIED repeatedly about the meeting.🙄 3/

denagrayson.com/2018/05/20/tal…
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💣BOOM💣

THREAD: the FBI warned Hope Hicks earlier this year about repeated attempts by #Russian🇷🇺operatives to make contact with her during the presidential transition‼️1/

nytimes.com/2017/12/08/us/…
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