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@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Gaslighting, Jose? Really? The ongoing problem of anti-Semitic abuse on Youtube is hardly a secret, and not at all rare.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Time to archive a few tweets

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A good thing to do when dealing with somebody who just put his complete lack of integrity on display.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom "I’ve been called a nazi and I have relatives who were in Auschwitz"

The first part of that, I can easily believe, but the second part, not for a second.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom I did a little more searching. Doing a reverse image search on his photo, I pulled up the not at all surprising email address [e-mail]. Yes, his username as gmail address.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Searching under that name, I found series of podcasts by a pair of people calling themselves "Glenn Kek" and "MAGA Dave." Visit this at your own risk. I didn't sit though the whole thing.

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Glenn mentions Dave at the beginning of the podcast.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom So, even without knowing them, we know who is who, and the redneck accents are obvious. I'd be VERY surprised if "Jose Santiago" was really a Jose, and even more so if he had known any Jews growing up.

We've avoided places like his hometown for a long time, for reasons of health

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom His motivation, then, is not a difficult one for me to understand. I've been stuck in redneck country, before. I'm familiar with the mentality. Messing with the marginalized other by smirking as one lies at his expense is an old tradition, with that crowd.

Them, I understand.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom I don't approve of them, I don't accept them, but I understand them.

What I don't understand, Mr. Pool (@Timcast) is the lack of support, just now, as I got trolled in such a blatantly bigoted manner.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom I was ready to go a search to dredge up an article on the subject of anti-Semitism on Youtube, but then stopped, because d.amn it, I shouldn't have to do that. I shouldn't have to "prove" to you people something that you already know.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom There is simply no way any of you could have been active on Youtube for any significant length of time, even merely as the posters of comments, and not noticed the raw hate being poured on Jews (most often), along with Muslims and a variety of racial groups.

This is no secret.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom At least, not among people who've been there. Hate, in its most raw form, is often seen in the comments, and more than infrequently, in the videos, themselves.

Prove it? F.uck you. You KNOW this is true.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom That's like asking me to prove that there's water in Lake Michigan. Go take a look. That should end any such "debate," and when it doesn't, one knows that one is dealing with disreputable people.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom The Youtube community has made a lot of its own problems. When an advertiser sees a racial supremacy - and we all KNOW that they exist - he seems something that he doesn't want his ads on, because he doesn't want the good name of his company associated with such vile material.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Do all or even most youtubers produce such material? Probably no, but when they do, who condemns them?

When marginalized people are subject to coarse racial abuse in your livestreams, how much support do they ever see from your mods?

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Having been such a person, I know how much support I've seen - none. Not once has a youtube mod given one of the white supremacists or neo-Nazis on the site a timeout, no matter how abusive they got toward me or any other Jew or non-European in the chat I ever saw post.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom But I've been silenced repeatedly, just for talking back to the racists pouring abuse out onto me. When I'd merely laugh at them, I'd get silenced, and in this, I am far from being alone.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Yet here you guys are, hats in hand (figuratively speaking), saying "it's awful, it's awful, Youtube is being crazy and they're demonetizing and shutting down our accounts without cause.", asking people like me to care.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Tell us why we should do that. What do we have at stake? What's in it for us?

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom I'll miss the ambient sleep videos, at least until I can find them somewhere else, but Mr. Pool (@Timcast), why should I care about you or for the rest of a community that has repeatedly shown a willingness to throw people like me to the wolves, just for s.hits and giggles?

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom You might say that Jews are a small group whose righteous anger can safely be ignored. Perhaps it can, though I wouldn't advise you to take that attitude with you into a courtroom, but Tim, you KNOW it's not just us.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Youtube is the site when I saw people in the comments on a video discussing the merits of killing women for their meat. This is not an edgy joke. That was a real discussion. Happened on an Angry MGTOW video.

Unusual in degree, but not in kind.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Real Misogyny (not to be confused with mere politcal incorrectness) is definitely a thing on Youtube, real heart of darkness stuff. Are you going to pretend that you never noticed?

Kind of hard to miss the incels, Tim. They're all over the place.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Women are not a tiny little group.

Then there's the treatment of Black people (who I've heard called "jungle apes"), Native Americans, people of Middle Eastern and North African descent, and people who, unlike Jose, really are Latinos and Latinas.

It gets coarse.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom You want to say that the first amendment gives one a right to be coarse, crude and offensive? I'm sure it does. But it doesn't give anybody a right to turn a profit by being so.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom The advertisers did nothing wrong by backing away from the thought of having their ad copy appear next to content that makes the output of Richard Spencer look like the life's work of Dr. Martin Luther King, by comparison.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Your community, perhaps, could have saved its as.s by distancing itself from the hatemongers on its site, but it never did that.

Except, maybe, for Steve Shives, the guy you all seem to love to hate for reasons I really don't need to know.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom No, by and large, the community distanced itself from and turned on the people who simply didn't want to be subjected to bigoted abuse, acting as if they were the problem.

"We're not the racists," some of you would cry. "No, you're just their enablers," more and more of us said.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom One by one, each of us would come to that day on which his patience ran out. I guess for me, that day is today.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Two f.ucking years of wall to wall abuse, and the rest of you are going to sit there and say nothing as somebody tries to pretend that it never happened?

F.uck you.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom I could give you something a lot more philosophical than that, as I've shown repeatedly, but why bother? The words would go in one ear and come out the other.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom None of you are really listening, so

F.uck you

is more than good enough, at this time when the rest of us are holding the cards. If your community doesn't see a groundswell of outside support, you're f.ucked. You need something from us.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom We, on the other hand, need no help or approval from anybody else to tell you to go f.uck yourselves.

If you don't have our backs, why should we have yours?

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Yeah, you're free to say and do what you want, and I'm free to say "s.ucks to be you, Tim" and go out a grab some coffee.

Which is what I'm going to do, right now. Meant to do it a few hours ago, before I got sidetracked by the latest edgelord.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Think it through, and see if you can get your community to clean up its act, Tim, or don't. I really don't care which.

In the end, you'll be hurting yourselves far more than you ever hurt us.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Oh - to any white nationalists reading this, I'd just like to mention that I'm not just Jewish, I'm the Middle Eastern / North African variety, mostly, with some Black ancestry, and I'm dating a White girl. We have sex frequently.

Maybe someday I'll upload photos of our children

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Just thought I'd share.

By the by, if white people are so darned superior, then why are grad departments in STEM so full of Jewish and non-White people, and why are so many Anglo-Saxon kids failing Calculus?

Not guessing. I've graded their papers.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom I mean, come on. It's freaking Calculus. I learned it when I was four, and most of those freshmen are old enough to vote.

Did I mention that she's blonde haired and blue eyed and that we're going to be banging all night long on top of an American flag?

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Just call it my way of saluting America.

Later.

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Please unroll @threadreaderapp

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom Correcting the tweet above and re-posting, because there is no edit function on Twitter ...

@GlennKek2020 @Timcast @gaywonk @TeamYouTube @StardustVibes @voxdotcom The Youtube community has made a lot of its own problems. When an advertiser sees a racial supremacy video (and we all KNOW that they exist), he sees something that he doesn't want his ads on, because he doesn't want the good name of his company associated with such vile content.