I put to Carwyn Jones that Wales voted Leave and that means out of the Customs Union:
FM: “Brexit needs to happen but not in the most damaging way... there are territories inside the CU outside the EU - Jersey and Guernsey. There’s a precedent. “
FM: not going to happen in timescale people expect. It’s cloud cuckoo land... take 6 to 7 years to negotiate. We can leave the EU built that doesnt mean that we’ve got to build a wall around ourselves see people leaving farming at a rate of knots
FM: It is an issue - we dont want to see a stitch up behind close doors that destroys welsh farming
FM: “look at steel - if we had free trade deal with China it would wipe out welsh steel industry - simple as that. FTAs offered as some great panacea but only work if you have market of similar standard of living. Otherwise you just export jobs”
All from an area that voted Leave.
It’s Wales not Walsall. strategy on Monday will reflect winning in the former rather than losing the latter.