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@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz "Hahahaha, girls like nerdy guys"

Not sure what you mean by "nerdy." I've seen that word used in more than one way.

"not knowing when to take no for an answer"

I can see why that would be annoying. Maybe even frightening. But then there's this ...
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz "but we've never said that we like awkward guys. Awkward usually means socially awkward"

EVERYBODY starts out socially awkward. Anybody who thinks of himself (or herself) as being an exception to this rule is lacking in self-awareness, and therefore, still awkward.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Like almost anything else, social skills have to be learned. If men are going to be shunned until they stop being awkward, then they're never going to stop being awkward, because they'll never have a chance to gain social experience.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Please note that I said "social experience," not sexual. I'm not supporting the Incel position that women should sleep with men to whom they are not attracted for the sake of "fairness." But lately, and for a while, I've seen a lot of women separate men into two groups.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz 1. Those who are immediately bangable.

2. Those who are to be discarded.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz There seems to be no room in their plans for a man who is, one might say, a fixer: somebody who has potential, but needs a little help and patience to grow into that potential.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Help and patience that men so often show to women who haven't outgrown their awkwardness yet, that a lot of women have come to take such consideration so for granted, that eventually they stop noticing that they were ever shown it, at all.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz This guy, I had to look up using a reverse image search. His name is "Matt Smith." He played the title character in Dr. Who?

I've personally known real scientists who look much better than him who are perpetually dateless, but OK.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz If somebody would rather date somebody who pretends to be something than somebody who really is something, she's entitled to that preference, as mystifying as it might be to some of us.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz OK, seriously, I'm not sure what's going on in this picture, but at best, he needs to work on himself. That's something he can and should do on his own, before having a coronary or losing any appendages to diabetes.

Not doing that is an unwise choice he can unmake on his own.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz To be bluntly honest, if this is the real him and not a satirical shot, I'm guessing that he's the sort of person who inspires future researchers to stop spending their time on role playing games sometime in their early to mid teens.

Not a nerd. A dork. BIG difference.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz But the sort of guy who usually does get referred to as a nerd, a real nerd, is going to be stuck working long hours developing highly non-trivial skills, while he less intelligent peers are out partying.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz This, before emerging, coursework complete, into the rabidly (sometimes violently) anti-intellectual society of the present-day United States, going from a nearly monastic isolation to social shunning, just for being what he is, in the country that coined the word "egghead."
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Given those circumstances, how could he not be at least a little awkward at that point? While he won't be as strange as the guy with the cape (and will almost certainly have better personal hygeine), he's been out of circulation for a while.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz You're not the first woman I've seen or heard saying that women love nerdy guys, but those women more often than not don't seem to want to accept that there are some fairly harsh realities that define the lives of those nerds. They don't try to understand those realities.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz They want a man to arrive to them, as their dream sports car would come to them from the show room - in perfect condition and ready for a ride.

But nerds are people, and people aren't machines.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz LOL. While I was away I was accused of being an incel



by somebody who obviously was one himself. His profile description told the whole story.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz "Pictured is Platelets. Because he is red like blood. And tiny like my platelet count. Medically retired 30-something, but just as cranky as old folks."

Oh, yes, the women must get wet as he walks past. 🙄
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz I gave him probably more of a reply than he merited



and then blocked another id-io-t.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz "while he less intelligent peers are out partying."

read: "while his less intelligent peers are out partying."
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz He had trouble understanding that old tweets can be encountered and responded to in the present



and I said something about that.



A little harsh, but no more so than deserved.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Then the OP dropped by to prove to me that despite the stereotypes, not all Jewish women are smart.



To which I'll say "Honey, I've been to shul. Believe me, I know." I replied to that



and then turned my back on her.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Hilariously, just now, the OP posted a tweet in which she accused me of being an anti-Semite on the basis that I used the word "gevalt" in a tweet. In fact, I am Jewish, myself.

She then deleted her own tweet and blocked me.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz But not before somebody I know could get a screenshot.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Regrettably, the browser locked up causing the page to reload before more, overlapping screenshots could be taken, but this will do. Let's zoom in on what she said.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz "Dear reader: when you take a tweet that had absolutely nothing to do with me being a Jew & you throw in Yiddish or a nod to my being a Jew to try to flesh out your insult, everyone sees you for exactly what you are. L'chaim, asshole."
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz You heard it here, first, I guess - as a Jew, I have to be an anti-Semite in order to use a Yiddish word, when conversing with another Jew.

Which must mean than Eretz Y'israel is crawling with Nazis? Who knew?
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Liz / The Sassiest Semite (The OP), having deleted her personal attack, then posted another one in which she targeted me for harassment.



It got an honest reply



to go along with all of the sycophantic ones.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Most importantly, it got a link back to this discussion, so that visitors could see the details about which the OP deliberately stayed vague, as she lied about what took place.

Again.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz What she did was a blatant violation of Twitter's policy against directed harassment, because if one includes the tweet she deleted, one knows of whom she speaks. The responses she got shows that the members of the mob she assembled saw that deleted tweet.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz She deleted it to cover her own backside. It would still be in Twitter's records, but having been targeted for harassment, before (usually for being Jewish), I know how little good reporting this would do.

Twitter always sides with the mob, never with the victim of the mob.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz This is why we can't have adult (as in mature, not as in sexually explicit) conversations on Twitter.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz That was one H*** of a detour, wasn't it? And that's the idea when somebody "plays the hysteria card," They try to make responding to their personal attacks into such a time consuming proposition that listerners forget what the discussion was about.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz That, and about the fact that they had nothing of value to contribute to it. Drama as a face-saving distraction.

I've blocked the offending parties, so unless the mob shows up, we should be able to move on, with or without the OP's approval.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Returning to your tweet, Undead Queen



and where I was before I hate to deal with the aforementioned nonsense ...
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Note: My pre-drama response started here



and finished here



as I waited for the sensible response I haven't seen, yet.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Undead Queen - If there seemed to be anything familar about the problem I described starting in this tweet



there should be. It's very much analogous to the "no experience, no job" cycle that so many people have learned is no joke, the hard way.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Employers want experienced employees. There is a recognition of the fact that for experienced employees to go on existing, as a group, somebody has to give new, inexperienced people the chance to gain experience.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz The employers' answer to that: let somebody else do it

The result: a "crisis" as that "somebody else" turns out to be nobody, because practically everybody has latched onto the same selfish idea (somebody else willl do it) and the nation starts running out of experienced workers
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Familiar stuff, because this is a problem that both men and women have run into, even if far more men would seem to have been truly afflicted by it.

America seems to be spiraling the drain because of this, and there's a clear and simple lesson to be learned.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Freeriding is no basis for a viable society. Those who would partake of that which is desirable should expect to play a role in keeping it in existence. When radical selfishness comes to be seen as a virtue and freeriding the norm, what results is not sustainable.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz But look at the drama that follows when somebody dares to suggest that single women should be no more selfish, no more unreasonable, than the narcissistic corporate executives so many "progressive" people love to hate.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Men with dating experience exist, as men with work experience do, because one day, when they had no experience at all, somebody gave them a chance. When women refuse to date those without experience (or without recent experience), the same logic will apply.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz The pool of single men with recent dating experience is forever being emptied. Some, because they get married, some because they die, and some because they become so revolted by the attitudes of the women they meet that they turn their backs on the opposite sex and go #MGTOW.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz If a finite pool of people is forever being drained and never replenished, obviously it is eventually going to start getting awfully empty.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz If all (or even most) of the women are going to deal with the question of how a man is to get dating experience without having dating experience by thinking "let him get it with some other girl, I just want somebody who's been around" then we're back to the freeriding problem.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz The pool of "eligible bachelors" will shrink, and women will be left wondering where all of the good men have gone, as those still in the pool discover that they can get away with anything.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz While the OP would seem unable or unwilling to understand this, judging from her latest smear



I'm not an incel.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Despite my poverty, I still get around, but I do care about this issue because, not being a narcissist, unlike the OP, I do know that it's not all about me.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Women like you can go on making the dumb, selfish, short sighted choices you've been making, as you demand the literally impossible out of most of the men around you, and that's only going to make my dating life better.

While it makes the world around me turn to s**t.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Unlike the OP, who I notice doesn't seem to have much of a dating life



for reasons that seem clear at this point, I do care about the lives that the people around me get to live.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz So I'll talk about that, even if a few opportunists want to have me silenced for doing so



as I laugh about some of the threats I get, and the irony reason for their impotence.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz I really am 6'7", reasonably thin, and physically attractive enough to be noticed. Genetic privilege guaranteed me those first few dates, and would again if hard work ever left me out of the dating market for a while.

I'll be in the pool until I'm too old to want the attention.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz Judging from the frequency with which I've seen Dad and Grandpa shooing away women their own age (and younger), I might be in it long after.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz So, when I hear a feminist use what the MRAs would call a "code pink"

exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactic…

I have to laugh, because their own actions have served to eliminate most of my potential competition.
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz "Threat of Withheld Affection (Code Pink) – The Pink Whip

Discussion: The target is admonished that his viewpoints or behavior will cause women to reject him as a mate.

Examples:

'No woman will marry you with that attitude.'

'Creeps like you will never get laid!'”
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz I guess that worked back in the 90s, but in the 2010s, there are too many thirsty women and alienated men for such an effort at isolation to succeed.

So, men like me will speak freely and women like the OP will learn just how very little power they have left,
@ladyfox14 @aelathali @LittleMissLizz That will have to do for now. It's 7:05 pm on a Saturday night, and unlike the OP, who seems to feel like she's G-d gift to men, I do have weekend plans.

Got to run.
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