Thread by @OnWithLogic

1) So a small rumination on the nature of religion and Q. Skip to the last post if you just want to hear the Q part 🤭

2) So we use language, both written and spoken to document and formalize our religions. Most of the world's religions have a seminal text from which to share common ground, an authoritative scripture that disciples can use as a formal "definition" of their belief set.

3) Most religions formalize themselves with a set of traditions and rituals, and then empower a hierarchy to maintain order, and if ethical people are involved, things can generally maintain a stasis, and change at a pace the left side of the IQ bell curve can manage.

4) This is where things tend to go sideways, because for many, religion is the central belief in their lives. And when you get lied to, rationality goes sideways, and you reassert faith above all else, the "god has a plan" excuse.

But I'm getting away from my main point.

5) So I recently had a discussion with people of religion devotion, and I was curious so I asked...

6) Every religion seems to have a story of how the world we live in came into creation. It's a fundamental question humans seem to have across millennia. And one that organized religions always seem to have an answer for.

7) So we live in a universe full of stars and planets.

We've developed a means to describe and understand it using the underlying mathematics present in Astrophysics.

And the question I posed was the following:

8) Why is it that religion has not shifted to a mathematical model of pursuit, considering this is the "language" that describes how we got here, creation, or in other words the nature of God better than any form of communication we've ever found?

9) My life experience shows that organized religion tends to reject mathematics and generally a lot of science.

Case in point was Copernicus who discovered that the sun was the center of (at the time) the "universe" and not the Earth.

And religions suppressed his discoveries.

10) He used mathematics to generate this understanding, and it has proven to be correct, unlike the stories that modern religions pose about creation.

Religions don't like to be wrong, do they? It means "God is wrong." What happened to Copernicus happens today worldwide.

11) Rather than further our knowledge of the universe, how we are spiritually tied to it, and the fascination in it's deeper levels, what a true creator might look like, we are left with simple stories from which to pull rather superficial understandings of humanity.

12) And then I wonder why we wonder why there is so much conflict in the world?

These stories are far from accurate. Lies lead to conflict. Religion, political, social, and people who pretend to be the "news."

13) I have never found a more easily manipulated population than those that show blind faith.

We love to rail on the blind faith that comes from Leftism, but are quick to un-follow and block when challenged with our own world views.

14) So ask yourself why religion has not shifted into the pursuit of mathematical understanding to find higher spiritual understanding in the place of written text, stories, and socially ordinal structures.

We have found the "language of God," no?

15) In essence, juxtapose the problems that religion has presented the world vs the study of mathematical models of the universe, why they are this way and who benefits from the whole thing.

16) I am hard pressed to come up with another answer than this is raw manipulation of good people by those that seek power thru their ability to subvert a movement and control.

It seems to me religious leaders benefit by subverting higher truths from those seeking truth.

17) My discussion ended on an interesting note, which I think is accurate.

People like good stories that reinforce their limited worldview, and then willingly choose the stories above the truth readily available to them.

18) I respect that some are less able to quantify complicated theoretical concepts & that simple stories make more sense.

But ask yourself, are subversive religious & political leaders looking to subvert the those that like simple, or those that are willing to dig into complex?

20) What make the cross section that has drawn us together powerful is that we've rejected it.

Truth above all else.

But ask yourself what your limit is when it comes to that idea. It's a good story, but is it true to you? What's your limit?

19) I encourage you to revisit your relationship with Q thru this lens.

Are you here for truth, or because this a good story that reinforces your pre-existing penchant for blind faith and your willingness to believe anything you hear because it mirrors your political views?