17 states, 500 local jurisdictions have raised smoking age to 21
Candy and fruit-flavored cigarettes, specifically, were banned in 2009 by The Federal Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (Tobacco Control Act).
Ordinance 8341: Also taxes cigarettes at 15c each or $3 per 20-pack
2018 revenue from this source was $290,000.
Here is what was in the packet:
An amendment has been drafted to exempt these
Requiring a photo ID for any and all tobacco purchases; banning possession of tobacco products by youth; limiting the number of e-cigs and refills a person can purchase in 24 hrs
Amendment drafted for these suggestions
Liquor stores are scared, too: Since grocery stores started selling beer, they have been adding tobacco products to compensate for lost sales.
Carr: Ordinance language says you have to present a Photo ID. This co. has someone enter DOB, address, age. That is verified by a third-party or providing last four of the SSN, or by scanning the gov't ID.
So, much harder than to walk down to the corner gas station. Still possible to be gamed.
Carr: It's taken off in the last few years, but Boulder Vape House has been here for, I think, 8 years
Someone yells from the audience: 6 (years)
Carr: Not in Colorado.
Avon (implemented in late 2018): $92,175 in revenue in Q1 of 2019. Compared to their share of state cig tax in 2017: $38,812.33.
Staff estimates $6M to $7M for the ordinance that would tax tobacco products including cigarettes
“These estimates are probably high,” staff notes.
IT'S IN YOUR PACKET, NAGLE!!
Carr: "There are checks being done; they're done by the FDA, not our police. I hope we can use the same sort of regime we do for alcohol and marijuana in the future, and supplement that enforcement."
Carr: E-cigs have significantly more nicotine per pack, I believe.
Much grumbling and head shaking from the audience.
Carr: Some vaping products don't have nicotine at all.
Hartnett: We do community service, suspensions and education on how it could be impacting their lives.
Hartnett gives a long-winded "too early to say but probably not."
"I don't see us curbing it, bc every year our (# of) penalties go up."
Council will love this: They also do a recycling program for the batteries, coils and empty cartridges for e-cigs and refills.
Yates: What % of sales are menthol?
Tanner: 19% are mint or menthol; 73% are flavored e-cig liquid.
(I hope I heard that right. Any followers who vape, please feel free to correct.)
Tanner: Last time we did data export, couple months ago, our ratio was 50:50 of ppl over 21 and 18-21.
But she's willing to raise the age limit to 21. "It's something we need to do."
Tanner: It's dropped drastically in the last year. We see ppl going into lower levels of nicotine and getting off Juul.
(I really hope I'm spelling that right.)
Mark your bingo cards.
I might like some Unicorn Milk. Not to vape. Gross. But maybe as like, a drink?
"I ID pretty much everyone. Unless you are obviously older, I ID you."
We're No. 1 in teen vape use; we should be No. 1 in something else, she says.
"I literally work with kids who say they cannot function without ingesting nicotine from vaping."
Much laughter from audience (and me).
The multi-step process *should* help reduce teens buying it, but many online stores are much easier to buy from.
He doesn't know; "I didn't research statistics," he said.
Risinger: "I don't have a whole lot of experience with that, but the 33% (of users at BVSD) that's not including the ppl who aren't reporting it bc they're too afraid to come out."
"If they say it's helping them, we need to respect that."
Brian, there are better things to do in Colorado. Get out there, man.
Not in favor of a tax. Cigarette sales make up 30% of Lolita's revenue.
Jones asks what his idea of "reasonable" is.
Holmes: 40% is a little high.
His point is that underage possession/consumption of pot or booze is punishable by law; maybe this should be, too. OK with 21 age limit, but not flavor ban.
He's a retailer of these products as well.
Nitsch: Mint, mango, bubble gum, pina colada. Idk how a bubble gum vape is not targeted toward youth.
Idk about e-cigs, but I'm fairly confident the gateway drug theory has been debunked. I could be wrong, though. Happy to be corrected.
Under this logic, city should ban flavored alcohol, too. Thinks education, rather than a flavor ban, is the way to go.
Defending his business: "This is process that uses gov't databases and fully trained staff."
Q from Yates: Would you support a statewide tax?
Call: I think that would be better. We'd ask that a city tax sunset if there was a state one passed later.
Supports flavor ban and higher age limit.
"This issue is different for me bc we don't deal with such young kids" in court.
Require age verification, online and in stores
Anything on cigarettes should take a bit longer: more research, outreach.
Carr: A lot of ppl working on this: Denver, Broomfield, Carbondale. Not a lot of ppl have the ability to turn quickly and place things on the ballot.
Young: I'm more where (Morzel) is. Put it on the ballot and let the next council decide, after more process.
Carlisle starts: She wants to ban everything, including mint and menthol.
Asks about grandfathering.
They seem to be a big part of the problem, Young says.
We can't ban a brand, Jones says.
Carr says that would fly.
Yates: I think where we're heading is leaving some flavors, like mint and menthol, behind for stores that admit only 21+. We can come back in a year if kids are still getting them.
Jones: I say for now, we leave that be. First we stop the pipeline.
Dude in the next row is STILL SLEEPING!