Thread by @MSS3RosaFerreum

@Nyelism Some of the biggest voices in the Men's Rights Movement are women such as the Honey Badger Brigade (@HoneyBadgerBite). There are men angry at anti-egalitarian laws that take issue with feminists because they have to fight feminist organizations (e.g., NOW) to fight for equality.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite A great recent example of this was the Florida Chapter of the National Organization of Women lying to its supporters and members in order to get a shared parenting and alimony reform bill vetoed that other Florida women had fought to get passed by the Florida legislature.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite In 2016, the Florida branch of the National Organization of Women opposed a bill that would make the default situation in divorce shared custody and would reform lifetime alimony (which was hurting a lot of women at the time).

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite Senate Bill 668 (lines 461–467) amendment to Florida Statute § 61.13(2)(c)(1) states:

"Absent good cause, it is the public policy of this state that the best interest of each minor child is served by… substantially equal time sharing with both parents."

flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2…

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite Senate Bill 668 (lines 517–610) amendment to Florida Statute § 61.13(3) custody determination criteria are enclosed in full. You can read the original text of Senate Bill 668 here (flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2…).

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite Terry Sanders, President of Florida National Organization for Women, "implore[d] Governor Scott to veto" legislation that would have implemented Default Shared Parenting.

Governor Scott did veto the legislation.

facebook.com/floridanow/pos…

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite The Florida chapter of NOW opposed reforming both the lifetime alimony law and the custody law.

In 2016, in Florida, this was not just a Men's Rights fight; women were harmed by these laws in the same way men had been.
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@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite Then there is the work done by noted feminist and American Regents' Professor, Mary P. Koss, Ph.D., which has made a mess of the statistics kept by the @FBI involving raped men and that undermined a lot of the studies based upon those statistics.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI American Regents' Professor Mary P. Koss, Ph.D., wrote “it is important to restrict the term rape to instances where male victims were penetrated by offenders. It is inappropriate to consider as a rape victim a man who engages in unwanted sexual intercourse with a woman.”

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI The above quote is from Mary P. Koss' "Detecting the Scope of Rape: A Review of Prevalence Research Methods" that was published in June 1993 in Volume 8, Number 2, of the _Journal of Interpersonal Violence_ on pages 206–207 (which is available at t.umblr.com/redirect?z=htt…).

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI The evil of Professor Koss' statement was shown by feminists Lara Stemple and Ilan H. Meyer in “The sexual victimization of men in America: new data challenge old assumptions” published in 2014 in _American Journal of Public Health_, vol. 104, issue 6 (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…).

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI "[F]ederal surveys detect a high prevalence of sexual victimization among men—in many circumstances similar to the prevalence found among women."

Am J Public Health. 2014 June; 104(6): e19.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI "[I]n 2011[,] …the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS), …found that men and women had a similar prevalence of nonconsensual sex in the previous 12 months (1.270 million women and 1.267 million men)."

Am J Public Health. 2014 June; 104(6): e19.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI "However unintentionally, the CDC’s publications and the media coverage that followed instead highlighted female sexual victimization, reinforcing public perceptions that sexual victimization is primarily a women’s issue."

Am J Public Health. 2014 June; 104(6): e19.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI "[T]reating male sexual victimization as a rare occurrence can impose regressive expectations about masculinity on men…. The belief that men are unlikely victims promotes a counterproductive construct of what it means to 'be a man.'"
Am J Public Health. 2014 June; 104(6): e20.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI "[F]actors that perpetuate misperceptions about men’s sexual victimization [include]: reliance on traditional gender stereotypes, outdated and inconsistent definitions, and methodological sampling biases that exclude inmates."

Am J Public Health. 2014 June; 104(6): e19.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI "Overreliance on [male rapist/female victim model] stigmatizes men who are victimized, risks portraying women as victims, and discourages discussion of abuse that runs counter to the paradigm, such as same-sex abuse and female perpetration of sexual victimization." Id., p. e25.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI "[S]ome contemporary gender theorists have questioned the overwhelming focus on female victimization, not simply because it misses male victims but also because it serves to reinforce regressive notions of female vulnerability." Id., p. e20.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI @FBI wasn't counting lack-of-consent-rape as rape until 2012 (justice.gov/archives/opa/b…), but one could be prosecuted for lack-of-consent-rape by the American federal government regardless of gender since 1986 (congress.gov/bill/99th-cong…). Dr. Koss wasn't using the legal definition.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI To demonstrate what I am talking about hereinbelow is the federal rape statute I referenced earlier. Federal law uses "Sexual Abuse" rather than "Rape" as the term of art for the crime of rape (congress.gov/bill/99th-cong…) due to Senate Bill 1236 (in the 99th United States Congress).

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI 18 U.S.C. § 2242(1): “Whoever … knowingly … causes another person to engage in a sexual act by threatening or placing that other person in fear ….”

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI 18 U.S.C. § 2242(2): “Whoever … knowingly … engages in a sexual act with another person [who] is… incapable of appraising the nature of the conduct; or… physically incapable of declining participation in, or communicating unwillingness to engage in, that sexual act….”

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI Compare that to the definition of rape the @FBI used to count rapes prior to 2012 (which the @FBI termed "forcible rapes," which seems to be similar to the common law definition of rape with which most people seem familiar).

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI "Forcible rape… is the carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will. Assaults or attempts to commit rape by force or threat of force are also included; however, statutory rape (without force) and other sex offenses are excluded" (ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u…, p. 23).

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI In this context, the @FBI and @CDCgov using an alternative definition of rape from the rest of the federal government, Congress, and the states is really weird.

It makes one wonder if the @FBI was even enforcing the law considering they were confused on definitions.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI @CDCgov The @FBI and the @CDCgov using these alternative definitions to count rapes fuels feminist propaganda supporting falsities (like "women are 90+% of the rape victims") as noted by feminists Lara Stemple and Ilan H. Meyer. Am J Public Health. 2014 June; 104(6): e19.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI @CDCgov None of these issues I have raised involve "toxic masculinity," they but do involve feminists taking a stand against equality leaving Men's Right Activists, nonfeminist and antifeminist women's groups, and egalitarian feminists to step in and fight against feminists for equality.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI @CDCgov @threadreaderapp, please unroll.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @FBI @CDCgov @threader_app, please compile.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite Oh look, the antiegalitarian @TakedownMRAs has made an appearance.

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @TakedownMRAs For those that are @TakedownMRAs-certified egalitarians, here is what @TakedownMRAs had to say.

@HoneyBadgerBite took a photograph holding a sign arguing against censorship with some famous conservative commentator. That's the worst he dug up? Didn't address any of the issues….

@Nyelism @HoneyBadgerBite @TakedownMRAs Can't you do better than a red herring, @TakedownMRAs?

Are the issues I raised too difficult for you to address, @TakedownMRAs?