Y #Ivermectin doesn't work
1 #ivermectin craze 4 #COVID19India started in South-America, spread like wildfire to USA/Europe. Heavily criticized in countries upholding #science, didnt find place in guidelines. BUT, nw it reached #India, into minds/hearts of doctors not due to...
2...the #science, but bcoz National institutions such as @aiims_newdelhi/ certain govts @goacm endorse it - without getting into the science of it. Nw, #ivermectin is slowly bcoming nationalist boy scout of #medicine in #India, wrngly endorsed by naïve students/senior professors.
3 Ivermectin is broad-spectrum antiparasitic approved by @US_FDA, proved to be safe at dose of ≤200 µg/kg. In a 60 kg man, the max conventional dose in 12 mg.
Caly et al (not Baba Ramdev) bit.ly/3vO9cuK identified in-vitro (cell study) anti-#SARSCoV2 ivermectin activity
4 Tis was followd by in-silico studies (performed on computer or via computer simulation) tat showd potential of #ivermectin 4 inhibition of #coronavirus replication. Note tat these R all preclinical/cell based/computer-generated data/NOT real.
It can remain in 'valley of death'
5 For #ivermectin 2 show #anticovid effect 0.5µM concentration is warranted. EVEN WITH dosing at 1700 µg/kg (nine times more than FDA approved/ = to 102 mg / V R using 12mg🙄) the 'effective' concentration of #ivermectin reached is only measly 0.28µM
bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bc…
6 So #scientific basis 4 assessing #ivermectin 4 #COVID19 at clinical level is insufficient. Wich is Y, @WHO excluded #Ivermectin frm Solidarity Trial.
Watevr #ivermectin dosing is used in various studies (FLCCC or BIRD) or othr #ivermectincult grps is ACTUALLY #homeopathy level
7 Nw in real life, A LOT of #ivermectin publications are mostly pre-prints, un-reviewed, unpublished and part of #IVERMECTIN craze groups webpages/websites. This is not #science and quoting or linking these show the paucity in #scientific temper of the person sharing these.
8 Ther R SO MANY issues wit #ivermectin trials: published/unpublished
➡️heterogeneity in patients receiving ivermectin (frm ICU patients to family contacts!/treating mild to ICU cases or even normal persons!
➡️VERY differnt dosings
➡️patients receiving various cointerventions...
9...➡️control groups received different comparators ranging frm placebo to even #HydroxyChloroquine absolutely USELESS (but still prescribed by physicians like @drakchaurasia) drug for #COVID19
➡️in gud pooled analyses, certainty of evidence was very low due 2 high risk of bias
10 THE BIGGEST ISSUE -
Diff websites (such as ivmmeta.com, c19ivermectin.com, tratamientotemprano.org/estudios-iverm…) conduct low quality meta-analyses showing unpublished colourful graphs
2 deceive public
shared via social media
witout folowing any methodological guidelines
11
One such, FLCCC is a fraud, grifter [someone who cheats others out of money/ also known as chiselers, defrauders, gougers, scammers, swindlers] organization wich publish #ivermectin data on their webpage, fleece people of their hard earned money, unleashing radicalization...
12...their recent low class, third rate publication on #ivermectin (wich they claim is effective thru poor and biased analysis) is currently the 'holy grail' for #ivemectin quacks in #India.
This publication is utter nonsense and has been debunked here 👇
13
These group based website analyses are full of errors and misleading claims.
➡️No protocol registration
➡️No methods, search strategies, inclusion criteria
➡️No quality assessment of the included studies
➡️No certainty of the evidence of pooled estimates
14
These websites ARE THE MAIN REASON for confusion among clinicians, patients and even decision-makers. An issue when performing metanalyses wich R not based on rigorous systematic reviews
Leading to spread spurious or fallacious findings - wich further damage #scientific temper
15
Also understand that #ivermectin controversy has politicisized and divided the medical community in certain countries.
bmj.com/content/373/bm…
Doctors MUST be scientists wich ensures adequate knowledge in processing information and preventing unecessary prescriptions.
16
Lot of my discussion is taken frm this excellent paper ebm.bmj.com/content/early/…
To conclude #ivermectin is USELESS 4 #COVID19India/MUST not be promoted

@pash22 @AnooBhu @malini_aisola @dawalelo @just1doctorwala @GorwayGlobal @deralteGaukler @drkamnakakkar
17 Here R som more imp links showcasing poor measures in #ivermectin promotion including data fraud to show benefits!





fda.gov/consumers/cons…

Promotion of #ivermectin thru The Weather Channel 😭

End
18
For proper, realistic, high quality, validated analysis on all treatments for #COVID19India, plz see
covid-nma.com which is run collaboratively by the best research organization of the world, not grifter organizations like FLCCC and BIRD etc...
19
Here is wat #scientific societies with evidence based analysis say about #Ivermectin
👇

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12 May
//When I had Covid, I used Siddha medicine and it worked//
Let us discuss

This is Placebo effect, a type of cognitive bias

"If we believe a treatment will work, it often will have a small physiological effect"

Even if treatment were absent, outcome would have been same
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Why did you have Placebo effect?
Becoz of another cognitive bias

Survivorship bias
"We tend to focus on thos things that survived a process and overlook ones that failed"

This happens when you see/read many testimonials on Siddha working in others who also suffer from biases
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These two biases create another bias.
Blind Spot bias

We dont think we have bias, but see it in others more than ourselves

So when science tells you that there is no evidence to demonstrate any benefit of Siddha in treatment of Covid, you consider scientists as biased
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12 May
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Im quoted in report on #2DG, drug by #DRDO, marketd by #DRreddys 4 #CovidIndia. Issues R well highlightd by @neutranino in @the_hindu 'Repurposed' use is questionable
This 'approval' doesnt bring ray of hope, but doubts on drug regulation in #india
A🧵
thehindu.com/news/national/…
2
#2deoxy2glucose is basically glucose molecule in wich 2-hydroxyl group replaced by hydrogen, so that it cannot undergo further glycolysis (which is the metabolic pathway that converts glucose to pyruvate and a hydrogen ion, during which, the free energy released in process...
3...is used to form high-energy molecules such as ATP or NADH that helps in various cell functions). So basically, by using 2DG, the normal glycolysis doesnt happen and cell functions get blocked. This is the reason it is used for cancers
Cancer cells depend heavily on glucose...
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1
I challenge ur narrative tat alternative medicine works
It doesnt/#neem studies tat u keep quoting, are NOT peer-reviewed, NOT published/has been collecting dust in preprint server since Apr 2020
Tis makes ur argument invalid
But #science is kind, so lets discus
#MedTwitter
2
indiarxiv.org/pyqx4/ This is UR molecular docking study u uploaded to preprint. Y was this never published? Bcoz this is highly flawed from methods to results to conclusions. Molecular docking was blind - hence ligand optimization is not accurate...
#ayush
3
...and grid coordinates wer computer generated. Hw did u correct for tis? U cud hav used predicted binding sites 2 improve accuracy/efficiency
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
Predicted binding sites 4 #SARSCoV2 is widely published/ use of grid-based docking wud be better...
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8 May
#ivermectin does not work.
1/Ther is more than meets the eye.
This paper was first sent 2 @FrontiersIn special issue
But issued a rejection after they identified “series of strong, unsupported claims” in paper as it "didnt offer an objective nor balanced scientific contribution
2/
Read the Chief Editor Frederick Fenter's media statement on the same
blog.frontiersin.org/2021/03/02/2-m…
The paper made series of strong, unsupported claims based on studies with insufficient statistical significance, and at times, without the use of control groups.
#COVID19
3/
Further, authors promoted their own specific #ivermectin treatment wich was inappropriate 4 a systematic review/metanalysis article. This paper does not follow @PRISMAStatement guidelines prisma-statement.org
Authors missed astute risk of bias/heterogeinity assessments
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Whole premise of #2deoxy2glucose is based on this SINGLE computational proteomics study nature.com/articles/s4158…
No human trials until nw
1 of 'targets' hypothesized in reviews nature.com/articles/s4225…
Last human trials on this molecule is from 1982-2007
@drcheruvarun @pash22
2/5
'Hypothesis' #Covid19 promot defective glucose metabolism (shown in controversial study pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32697943/) never clinically proven tho. Low-glucose mimetic (2DG) reduces tis, wit additional anti inflammatory/interaction wit viral proteins - again, cell study
#MedTwitter
3/5
The anti-inflammatory/antiviral effect is thot 2 B due to glucose switching of 2GD - reversal of aerobic glycolysis to oxidative phosphorylation - is also in-silico study - not comprehensively shown in cell models.
tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.10…
@drreddys jumped the gun quickly.
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Hello doctor. You can answer 2 ur own tweets.
Y call your non-medical friends? U hav been tweeting utter nonsense, polypharmacy 4 treatment of #COVID19India against all evidence based pooled data and analysis. Answer to why you want to use anti-depressants, diuretics and NSAIDs?!
You have tagged ICMR, when they dont recommend any drugs for 'variants' as your treatment suggest. U have tagged PMO India! That's intense, but he's MIA. What will Yogi Bisht, UP-CM discuss wit regards to covid protocol? He's busy arranging oximeters 4cows. U might hav read news
Also read more on the FLCCC alliance crap. The @NIH clearly recommend against #ivermectin use and these maverick groups are wasting everyone's time. Two handles you tagged are from these pariah medical groups - BIRD and FLCCC. That's not very credible.
medpagetoday.com/infectiousdise…
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