I see a disconnect between what Pelosi actually says and what people say that she says.
To stay grounded in facts, I’ll look at Pelosi’s exact words. No paraphrases or summaries.
Then I’ll analyze.
The meat starts at the 1:30 minute mark.
Kimmel pointed out that Mueller handed the matter to Congress. He asked if Congress is taking up the task.
Pelosi: “We’ve been on that path for a while . . .
Kimmel: “It feels like we’ve been on the path for a really long time.”
Pelosi: “You have to remember we’ve only had the majority since this year, and for the first month government was shut down.”
Then she says: “We have to be ready.”’
Next she makes a grand statement. . .
“So when we go down this path, we have to be ready and it has to be clear to the American people, and we have to hope that it will be clear to the Republicans in the US Senate.”
The impeachment part begins at the 22:27 minute mark.
She was asked this question: "Are you uncomfortable with the term 'impeachment inquiry?' Is there another term we should be using?"
“We are on our path. Where it takes us is where—we will follow the facts.”
Pelosi: “For months, we've been saying we're doing three things. . .
“I support what is happening in the Judiciary Committee because that enables them to do their process. . . "
Pelosi is not saying—and never implied—that delays are strategic.
Democrats are up against an administration obstructing their investigations at every turn.
The question is: What should they do about this obstruction?
💠Fight fire with fire,
💠Impeach now with what we know, or
💠Gather all the evidence by following procedure and process, which takes time.
“Fight fire with fire” goes something like: “We have to get Trump out NOW before he does more damage.”
Removal requires 2/3 of the Senate.
The 25th Amendment isn't a realistic option.
Nothing that has come to light so far will sway this Senate.
If you don't believe it, watch the Mueller hearing.
Nixon didn’t have Fox and right wing media. John Dean said that Nixon might have survived if he’d had Fox. In fact, right wing media arose to protect future Nixons.
Also, the GOP was different during the Nixon era.
The shift creating our current levels of polarization was not complete until Reagan. See:
IOW, the GOP hadn't fully morphed into a reactionary party, and therefore, wasn't as dangerous as it is today.
We don’t get to see the documents as they are collected.
Fair investigations don't work like that. See:
Remember that a Senate trial is big deal. Government business stops. Everyone focuses.
Politically it would be absurd. The public would rightfully be annoyed.
Next issue: Pelosi frustrates people by saying that the “public is not there yet” with regard to impeachment.
Lauren Underwood explains why initially she was reluctant:
(She's on board now.)
This thread is already too long, so see this thread about Prof. Steven Levitsky’s theory that fighting fire with fire leads to the kind of escalation that rarely ends well.
Democracy is grinding work.
Due process and procedures take time.
Kangaroo Trials, on the other hand, can happen quickly.
I've heard people say that to overcome the obstruction, "They should start jailing people.”
What if she said, “Our minds are made up. We’re investigating, but we know he’s guilty. As soon as we get all the documents, we’ll impeach.”
That’s not how due process or fair play works.
Only due process and fair play can save democracy.
See that? I still want to edit.
For why that's not a good idea, see:
Procedure (rule of law) takes time.
For the 25th, you need Pence + a majority of the Cabinet to declare Trump “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.”
That's a higher burden than impeachment + removal.
"Rule of Law" means such such things SHOULD be hard.
There should be a fair and arduous process.
Making it too easy to remove a president hurts democracy in the long run.
It's much easier to be popular on Twitter by stirring people up and giving false hope.
Me = bearer of bad news.
Sorry about that.