'I thought it was one way and Jennie [Formby] said something else. That was lost'
'Whichever way I go on this I am going to be in trouble with some people.
'In my view it was carried'
Moments later after further discussions with Formby she said: 'It was lost I'm sorry'
Or if she was confused and misspoke, saying it had carried when in fact she meant it had lost
Either way there will be one hell of a row