No. 1, The event eg. something happens btw 2 countries, trust in this order and identify overlaps. The overlap is usually true.
1: Unedited videos of same event, multiple angles
2: Unedited pics of same event, multiple angles
3: Directly or indirectly corroborated by both
eg....
Eg 1. Moskva sinking
3a: #Ukraine claim, Moskva sunk by AShMs
3b: #Russsia claim, Moskva sunk by fire & storm
2: Pics of Moskva with sooty hull, big black marks/holes on the hull near water line away from openings.
1: Video of Moskva showing all in pt 2.
Conc: Moskva sunk by AShM
one #Indian pilot in custody and one in hospital when #MiG21 was single seat
3e: #US award for keeping #F16 tech safe.
2: Pics of spent warhead of #Indian missile (right extreme) and #MiG21
No pics or videos of #F16 wreckage
Conclusion: #Pakistan lost a jet that day v high prob, most likely #F16, very likely shot down by #Indian#MiG21
Another factor to consider 1. What does a source have to lose image wise if proven otherwise? 2. Source's history of transparency? 3. Source's history of acceptance when wrong? 4. Source's understanding of what they are talking about?
Use all these and you will be fine.
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While the #IndianArmy has #Arjun in production, why isnt there a large scale commitment to replace ageing #T72M in service. These tanks are terrible for their crews and not well protected.
While the plan is to add #T90 turrets on #Indianarmy#T72 and there are prototypes going around test areas. But #T90 is now a known quantity, the #US has a few to test on and develop anti-tank munition tech. #India needs to get away from the turret popping design to gain a.......
Qualitative edge as all #Chinese tanks and all #Pakistani tanks which are not Type 59 derivatives rely on the same carousel auto-loader design. The #Chinese ZTZ-99 and #Pakistani Al Khalids are essentially #T72 derivatives, how do I know? I looked at the road wheel identations.
This is a opposite #whatwerethedesignersthinking thread. The #Russians built a 5,000 tonne frigate that has more missiles than several larger contemporaries. It has 16 AShMs VLS (2 3S14 8 cell UKSK modules) and 32 Redut SAM VLS for 9M96E 40 km and 9M96E2 120 km missiles. #εpsilon
My very scientific metric 115 tonne per missile (I know it is not scientific, just a fun metric). For eg. #Indian#Kolkataclass is 154 tonne per missile, #British#Daringclass is 168 tonne per missile. But, those are destroyers and have larger stores for longer deployments
It is funny that these frigates have the same peer armament as #IndianNavy MF-STAR destroyers with equally potent AD & AShMs at 2/3rds the displacement which limits endurance for this #Russian ship. The Gorkys are based on elongated Krivak/#Talwarclass/Admiral Grigorovich hulls..
My Indian followers,#Russians have benefitted a lot from you guys designing and purchasing #Russian origin gear for them to swoop in and buy some you guys paid to develop or revive. Exhibit A: Su-30MKI becomes Su-30SM. #εpsilon
There are two distinct #Su30 lines, #Indian#Su30MKI at Irkut plant and its derivatives and #Chinese#Su30MKK at KNAAPO plant and its derivatives. The Su-30SM, bought in nos is from MKI lineage. To be fair #Russianairforce also bought 18 Su-30M2s to keep KNAAPO busy before #Su35S
Exhibit B: MiG-29K operated by the #IndianNavy made sure that the #Russians can buy a few for themselves after the #Indian production run was done. Else, they might have stuck to upgrading their Su-33s in the long run.
Our previous threads on naval vessels have highlighted the lack of AD on #Pakistan's #Zulfiqarclass, lack of any missiles on #Indian#Kamortaclass. But does an ideally armed vessel for its size look like? The #Russian Stereguschchiy class says hi! #εpsilon
These are sadly the only two blue water capable naval surface vessels #Russians have been able to produce in numbers. With 8 (including related Gremyashchiy) in service and 20+ planned, these will be the bulk of the #RussianNavy fleet
For a 2,000 tonne corvette the Stereguschchiys have 16 SAMs derived from the S350/S400 9M96 family of missiles capable of 40 km to 120 km engagement zone. The lead ship lacks this and has a Kashtan CIWS on the bow. They carry 8 Kh-35s as well. Gremyashchiys have a UKSK module...
New Iteration of #Whatwerethedesignersthinking! This time it is the Zulfiqar class frigate from #Pakistan. #IndianNavy presently maintains a massive advantage in fleet size over the #PakistanNavy. The advantage was even more so in the 2000s. These frigates have just 8 SAMs..
For comparison, the 3 #IndianNavy#Delhi class destroyers that were in service before the #Pakistani Zulfiqar class have more Kh-35s than the 4 Zulfiqars have SAMs. The AD is made worse by the considering that these are 15 km range missiles vs 120 km - 300 km ranged Kh-35s.
The Zulfiqars are based on the #Chinese Type 053H3 base design which shares the same SAM but are late 1990s vintage compared. These vessels are finally getting much needed backup in the form of the 4 Type 054APs which are infact better than their Indian contemporaries in SAMs
I have not seen a lot of coverage of these essentially frigate sized OPVs of the #IndianNavy and hence wanted to do a comparion. These vessels have no cruise missile VLS cells or any Air Defense VLS cells. She just has 2 RBU-6000s and a torpedo launcher for sub hunting.
So the #IndianNavy took an average of 8 years to build each one of them and 9 years after the lead ship was commissioned, she doesnt have a VDS (Variable Depth Sonar)/ TAS (Towed Array Sonar), essentially for what is officially an ASW corvette.