Corbyn up btw. Already quite tedious news.sky.com/watch-live
How anyone thinks this man is an inspiring speaker I'll never fucking understand.
Like watching a broken clock slowly crumble to dust.
Nothing new so far. Wants unilateral offer on EU rights and standstill transition.
Is it snowing.... inside... in Coventry? What's all that floaty white stuff?
Corbyn just giving usual speech about raising spending on NHS. It;s like he's already bored by having to talk about Brexit.
Pays lip service to nonsense that there'll be a Brexit dividend. Is he stupid enough to believe it, or cynical enough to repeat it? Either way, irritating.
Better - no scapegoating of migrants, no playing off generations against one another, no sacrificing the Good Friday Agreement.
'We're leaving the EU not Europe'. Drink.
Corbyn says areas that voted to leave are same ones suffering from years of chronic under investment. Quite right.
Doesn't mention that they're ones projected to lose hardest outside single market.
Nothing new so far. Standard 'jobs first Brexit' stuff. No detail on what that might look like. "A Brexit for all our people." Dear me.
Praises European Food Safety Authority, European Chemicals Agency. This is much better. Points out business supply chains are interwoven throughout Europe.
"Makes no sense for the UK to abandon EU agencies." Makes it pretty clear he'd want to stay in them rather than replicate functions.
This is good. Relatively detailed, relatively firm.
Labour wants UK to have "bespoke negotiated relationship of its own".
Labour would negotiate "comprehensive UK/EU customs union".
UK would need "a say" in future trade deals, that seems to be condition. Some kind of forum for UK participation would settle this.
That would require canny negotiation, but I think it's a credible goal. Non-EEA EU members get a say in agencies, without a veto, cld be similar.
Corbyn again talking about maintaining standards, rights at work etc.
But silent on what full agency participation means in reality - that'd we'd have to keep standards the same in future too, not just bank the ones of the past.
Still doing it - talking about "a floor" under existing rights. In truth, we would have to keep standards in line with EU in future, or you get fuck all.
Corbyn says he wants industrial strategy for high skill, high wage economy. Decade long programme for renewal. All good, but I suspect he's about to say state aid prevents him.
And then he does. Implies state aid and agency workers are an obstacle to stopping "tide of privatisation and outsourcing".
So look, that's nonsense. But. It's not put particularly strongly. And as @mattholehouse pointed out here he is also proposing easy get-outs
Similarly, a bit on free movement makes it clear that economy takes precedence over immigration. "We will not do what govt is doing and start with rigid red lines on immigration"
Up to you how you take this. Could be code for small achievable reforms to FoM/agency workers in pursuit of very soft Brexit.
Or could be grey area mercurial rhetoric designed to keep Remainers on board while he executes his eurosceptic plan.
No-one really knows which is true.
"It's not migrants that drive down wages" - it's employers driving down pay. Kind of has his cake and eat it here.
Gets to blame immigration for driving down wages while protecting himself against accusation of betraying immigrants themselves.
Shameful of him regardless. Immigrants don't drive down wages, there is no basis to say they do do so, and he should stop repeating this hateful nonsense.
He's now back on his standard global banking elite are bastards message.
trying to make him talk about Brexit is like trying to get a child to eat their vegetables.
And now talking about regime change. He's all over the houses now.
"I have long opposed free market orthodoxy and the democratic deficit in the European Union".
"But often term eurosceptic became synonymous with anti-European." Christ.
It's very easy to say you're pro-European, because it is geography. Saying it means nothing.
"Brexit is what we make of it". Sweet Jesus.
Now lost in vaguery and toss.
That's over, thank God.
Strip out all the crap and there are some limited reasons to be optimistic about what he just said.
If you want the truth about what Corbyn is saying about agency workers, state aid etc, read this politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/11/…
V.good first question - can you live with a say over FTAs, rather than a veto?
V.good second Q: Many EU states pay more on state aid than UK. What specifically does Labour want to do that requires exemption from the rules?
V.Good third Q: is this about shaping Brexit, or shipping out May
Corbyn now emitting standard-issue vacuous blather. "We have a team." Like emptiness going down a drain, into a sink of nothing.
On state aid: He cites nationalisation of RBS. Had to sell off best parts to accommodate rules. Cites demand for Royal Mail privatisation.
Corbyn quite specific there. Says manifesto commitment to nationalise water, mail and train operating companies would go against state aid.
He;s wrong. EU rules say you can nationalise what you want. Q is competition in provision. But I'm not sure about that point on RBS - will check out if it stands up.
He is very vague on whether Labour would accept lack of veto on future FTAs.
Srsly tho what is the white fluff?
First question from a non-journo: "Please will you hurry up and be our prime minister?" This is why it is not a good idea to take questions from supporters.
On mail - only time they threatened to use veto.
OK so we're done. Obvs quite a lot that's irritating there, but Labour position still seems to be heading in right direction. Will write something up in a bit.
