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There are two issues at play right now in the #sbc about @SBCExecComm: one centers around our polity and one centers around our theology.
In regard to polity: messengers have spoken and trustees are ignoring them. This is significant and, tbh, we have never seen something like this in the #sbc
The second is theological: at best, we have reason to believe that we have not cared well for sexual abuse survivors. At worst, we have been in the midst of covering abuse up on a massive denominational scale. #sbc
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Statement from Liz Evan, attorney and member of the #SBC Sexual Abuse Task Force:

"If you are a Southern Baptist, you need to understand what has just happened in your @SBCExecComm. They have flagrantly defied the overwhelming will of the Messengers.
"A few dozen folks in Nashville decided they know better than the 17,000 Messengers appointed by the churches.
"Waiver of privilege was not something the Messengers delegated to the EC to consider in their discretion; waiver was a direct and specific command from the Messengers, and it was flouted.
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A thread, for the benefit of all #sbc members who are concerned about the .@SBCExecComm's potential response to the Task Force's recommendations to waive privilege. I thought that it would be good to post our actual bylaws since they are being used as a point of contention (1)
I think that by clearly looking at our bylaws we can have a better understanding of what our role is next week. I also do not see by looking at these bylaws, one can make a case that the members of the EC have any standing to ignore the will of the messengers (2)
Bylaw 18.E -- tells us what our role is. (3)
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1/4 Alliance of Love against Baptist Abuses (ALBA) is assisting in filing a complaint with the Higher Learning Commission (HLC) next week against the policies and practices of Southwest Baptist University #SBUniv.

#sbctoo #SBC #churchtoo #mobaptists Image
2/4 The complaint addresses the cultural and "Biblical" belief among the #SBUniv administration, staff, and governance that women hold an inferior and depraved status, due to the order of creation and the Fall, and that all women are obligated to submit to all men.

#sbctoo #SBC
3/4 Therefore, there is no necessity to address the collective or individual harm of molestation, harassment, slander, abuse, sexual violence, academic inequity, and inequitable treatment towards women because, by default, ...

#SBUniv #SBC #sbctoo #churchtoo
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25/ We have obtained (with permission) reams of court documents related to the poisonings at #SBUniv.

These reference multiple instances of sexual assault, slander, or abuse, perpetrated by SBU personnel - most members of First Baptist Church of Bolivar.

#SBC #sbctoo
26/ We'll present this information publicly through several publications and, in brief, these Tweets.

The attorney for the injured student (who wasn't expected to survive the pesticide poisonings at #SBUniv) told her these documents were already public.

#SBC #sbctoo
27/ However, she discovered her *own* attorney engaged in a series of deceptions, including, concealing the fact that he previously worked for Roy Blunt - former #SBUniv trustee and president, Secretary of State, congressman ... and current Senator of Missouri.

#SBC sbctoo
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15/ Before beginning today's "episode," we make note of several realities.

"How many?" someone asked, "How many babies were killed by the #pesticides."

Is that even the right question?

How many murders does it take to reach some macabre threshold? But ...

#SBUniv #SBC #SBCtoo
16/ To put this in perspective, one student reported that during Homecoming she realized that virtually every married women in her dorm had two or more pregnancies end in miscarriage, often late term.

Is that enough to prompt the #SBUniv governance to investigate?

#SBUniv #SBC
17/ Apparently not.

Because, in the #SBUniv view, this is *only* women's pain and women's losses.

But, every one of these children had fathers and grandparents and often siblings.

This is long-term, family pain, generational pain, Bearcat pain.

#SBCtoo #SBC #abortion
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15/ Before beginning today's episode, we make note of several realities.

"How many?" someone asked, "How many babies were killed by the #pesticides."

Is that even the right question?

How many murders does it take to reach some macabre threshold?

But,

#SBUniv #SBC #SBCtoo
16/ To put this in perspective, one student reported that during Homecoming she realized that virtually every married women in her dorm had two or more pregnancies end in miscarriage - often late term.

Is that enough to prompt the #SBUniv governance to investigate?

#SBCtoo
17/ Apparently not.

Because, in the #SBUniv view, this is *only* women's pain and women's losses.

But, every one of these children had fathers and grandparents and often siblings.

This is long-term, family pain, generational pain, Bearcat pain.

#SBCtoo #SBC #abortion
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1/14 It appears some believe our questions about embryo genesis are prompted by latent guilt on our parts.

If it relieves minds: No, before God, none of us have ever been a party to an abortion, nor even a miscarriage.

These are ethical questions.

#SBUniv #SBCtoo #SBC
2/14 Nonetheless, our questions are prompted by real events, which if, one accepts the Baptist definition of #abortion, constitutes mass murder - the illegal application of undeniably abortifacient pesticides for decades on the Southwest Baptist University campus.

#SBUniv #SBC
3/14 In fact, Dr. James Sells and his administration continued daytime application of pesticides for years, even after students' injuries - because the University did not want to appear at fault and "increase their risk of liability."

#SBUniv #SBCtoo #SBC
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1/ As the only Baptists in an Interfaith Bible Study, we were asked to clarify some issues.

We assumed we could provide answers.

But, we could not.

So, we asked clergy for aid and we were soundly rebuked; our membership in a #SBC church was jeopardized.

#SBCtoo #churchtoo
2/ As a Study member exclaimed:

"Seriously? They'll disfellowship you for asking questions?

That's bizarre! How else can you learn?

You need better pastoral care!"

Probably. 😞

So, seven difficult #SBC theology questions. 👇

Trigger Warnings!
#Sexualabuse 🚨 #Abortion 🚨
3/ Question 1: Does this passage in Numbers 8:11-31 depict a forced ceremonial #abortion, which kills the fetus in order to quell a husband's suspicion of his wife's adultery?

biblegateway.com/passage/?searc…
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God created us in His image, male & female - an essential pairing for the creation of life.

Likewise, God has both masculine & feminine attributes - vital for the creation of Spiritual Life.

This thread👇explores Christian traditions of the feminine.

#sbc #sbctoo #churchtoo Image
The female Sophia/Wisdom:

Listen as Wisdom calls out!

Hear as understanding raises her voice!
...
By the gates at the entrance to the town, on the road leading in, she cries aloud, "I call to you, to all of you!
Proverbs 8

bible.com/bible/116/PRO.…
#sbc
1/ Never heard a sermon on this.️🔝

Typical response:

Us: What's your understanding of Feminine Wisdom (or in Hebrew "Chochmah") in Proverbs 8?

Pastor: 😕
Long, awkward pause.

Us: So ... the #SBC doesn't teach Feminine Wisdom?

Pastor (checks watch): Well, gotta go! 🏃
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@GarySweeten2 asked why #SBC doesn't utilize Christian Conflict Resolution.

Exactly!

If #SBC fears theological "contamination" from denominational programs, the solution is simple: create its own.

We're petitioning for such a program - RECONCILE!

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We're petitioning for RECONCILE!: An Online Restorative Justice and Conflict Resolution Degree Diploma (and Professional Certification) - collaboratively funded and taught by the six #SBC Seminaries and primarily administered and instructed by WOMEN. 2/11
The Scriptural Basis: Women are particularly gifted in empathy, compassion, and reconciliation. They must be permitted to come along side pastors/ministers, acting as they were originally created, as "ezer" - not merely handmaids or helpers ... but as allies and rescuers. 3/11
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Given the talk about plagiarism in the #SBC, before we cast stones at anyone, perhaps we would benefit from some historical perspective. In what follows I’m not arguing for a position per se. I’m offering views & accounts from prominent figures/eras on this that might surprise u.
For instance, Augustine of Hippo, the giant of the Latinate tradition allowed the use of another’s sermon content. He argued, “There are indeed some men who have good delivery but cannot compose anything to deliver…
Now if such men take what has been written w/ wisdom & eloquence by others, & commits it to memory, & delivers it to people, they cannot be blamed, supposing them to do it w/o deception. For in this way many become preachers of truth (which is certainly desirable)…
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SBC Thread. 1. Last night I spent 20 minutes after a congregational business meeting defending our church connection to the #SBC.
2. These are relatively new believers who somehow went down the rabbit hole of SBC Twitter. Mind you - they don’t know the difference between @drjamesmerritt and @HunterCrowder6, @drmoore or @BethMooreLPM.
3. They said “Why in the world are we affiliated with a group that treats one another like that!?!” They were appalled at the vitriol, meanness, snark and “gotcha” attitude.
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My #ChurchToo story thread:

This is a brief overview of how @MidwestAnglican / @ChurchRez has mishandled church leader sexual abuse and assault allegations for 2+ years and counting.

(I will write about my personal experience within the story in greater detail soon.)

#ACNAtoo
who's who:

@The_ACNA: Anglican Church in North America under @ArchbishopFoley

@MidwestAnglican: 35-church ACNA diocese under Bp. Stewart Ruch

@ChurchRez: largest church & diocesan headquarters, Wheaton, IL

Christ Our Light Anglican Church (COLA): small church, Big Rock, IL
My neighbor Mark Rivera raped me twice, pressured me to keep this secret, and repeatedly propositioned me to have an affair.

Mark was the catechist (lay pastor) at Christ Our Light Anglican. My godfather, Rand York, was the priest. COLA members were my neighbors and friends.
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I am genuinely confounded by those within the #sbc who oppose the 2019 Resolution 9 on CRT and Intersectionality. I reread it just now to refresh my memory and I am still perplexed. It states unequivocally that Scripture is supreme and nothing outweighs the gospel.
It goes on to say that CTR/I is helpful in some regards to explain from a sociological perspective aspects of our culture that the Bible doesn’t address. Res 9 simply puts into practice the theological concept of “common grace,” that even those without the Spirit can be correct.
But with the way some people reacted to Resolution 9, you’d think the SBC repudiated the Scriptures and went “whole hog” in on CRT/I, which is precisely false. We simply said CRT can be helpful. Which is precisely what we say in other areas of life.
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🧵I give thanks for the #SBC21 vote for investigation of @SBCExecComm & audit re #SBC abuse. But I want to also be clear about the limitations of this vote. It carries POTENTIAL but for that potential to eventually be realized there must be bird-dogging & follow-up. 1/
The #SBC21 vote does not serve to expose a single clergy abuser or enabler; nor does it create a database of clergy predators. It doesn't provide communal validation to #SBCtoo survivors by naming their abusers. It doesn't provide any aid or therapy costs to #SBCtoo survivors. 2/
It does not make public institutional apology to any #SBCtoo survivor for grotesqueries of #SBC officials.

These much-needed steps are wholly left up in the air. Moreover, rather than helping #SBCtoo survivors, the vote is actually asking that survivors help the #SBC. 3/
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So much energy in the #sbc (and broader conservative evangelicalism) goes into saying that we must vote Republican because of abortion. Abortion is the great evil of our time and thus, we must subordinate all other issues to it or potentially face God’s judgment on our nation.
But I think there’s a possibility that those that espouse this view have not considered. Based on Romans 1, there’s a strong case to be made that our nation’s allowance and celebration of abortion is not inviting God’s wrath, it *is* God’s wrath.
In Romans 1, Paul teaches that God’s wrath is not merely something that is coming at the end of all things. It is already here in part. And it’s here because of people’s unrighteousness, by which they suppress the truth.
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#SBC21 Messengers...Thank you from the bottom of my heart, for hearing our cries and acting in support! While I am beyond elated many important steps have been taken over the last 2 days, there is so much work still left to be done...and it cannot be done by 1 person alone.
There will be a continued need for many things as we move forward with a new sense of hope...Accountability for promises made, ministering to survivors (while meeting them where they are,) continued education into trauma and how we as Christians can respond in a way that...
that honors Christ...etc.
Then, once the investigation is complete and made known, there will be many more steps needed to be taken in regards to genuine repentance & restitution along with concrete actions to prevent further harm to God's children. This is just the beginning...
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Begins with Ronnie Floyd: I hear you. The Executive Comm respects the messengers. We need this deliberative process. We know that this will make our convention stronger. #SBC21 #SBC2021 #SBCtoo #SBC
NOW: Troy Bush, whose church we covered this week, is now speaking. Accuses the executive committee of not even doing the bare minimum when "investigating" a church

"We believe that the executive comm does not have the ability to handle this task force." #SBC21 #SBC2021 @SBCtoo
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NOW: 15K Southern Baptists will debate/vote on a third-party investigation into whether top leaders sought to suppress abuse survivors/stifle reforms/intimidate leaders like Russ Moore. #SBC2021 #SBC21 #SBCtoo

It's prolly more important than you think.

Here's why:
Sex abuse has again dominated discussions here, including in yesterdays presidential election. But that was among a variety of issues at hand.

This tho? It will be a huge indicator of how much Southern Baptists are willing to put on the line re: abuse. #SBC2021 #SBC21 #SBCtoo
Over the last three years, Southern Baptists have shown they're willing to do a lot of things, so long as they are forward-looking. That's great/important.

But true repentance means rectifying wrongs committed, regardless of the toll.

That's how survivors are seeing this vote.
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🧵re @toddbenkert motion at #SBC21. It's referred to @ERLC. Todd shared this strategy with me in advance. Yes, I'm wary of ERLC, no getting around it. You know me. Long history has dug a deep well of skepticism. Still...This is something substantive & real. It's earnest effort...
...that holds POTENTIAL to bring #SBC institutional reform, accountability for abusers & enablers, and true care for survivors. The word POTENTIAL is critical. THIS IS A BEGINNING, NOT AN END. There will be many possibilities for derailment. SBCers: You must persist. #SBC21
Concerns & possible stumbling points: 1) Sooo much will depend on WHO @ERLC hires for the audit. GRACE has strong track-record of trust in survivor community. 2) Funding may be a HUGE issue. 3) Aim of this 3-yr audit is broad-spectrum data & analysis.
#SBC21
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Wednesday at #SBC21 begins with Grant Gaines speaking to his call for a third party investigation into the Exec committee and abuse.

"These are not allegations we can sweep yunder the rug. These are allegations we must get to the bottom to." #SBCtoo #SBC2021 #SBC
Gaines: "We should be bending over backwards to ensure we do everything we can."

Gaines then directs comments to survivors, tells them they matter and are worth fighting for.

A lot of applause. #SBCtoo #SBC2021 #SBC
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Litton begins w his story of growing up in a broken home and finding God at 7. He then talks about losing his wife in a car accident 14 years ago. He then married his wife Kathy, whose husband - an SBC pastor - also died in a car accident. #SBC21 #SBC2021 #SBC #SBCtoo
Litton: We both have a profound sense of pain and suffering in our live that has changed us, and I think changed us for the better. #SBC21 #SBC2021 #SBC #SBCtoo
Litton: There are 4.5 billion people on this planet who we feel have not heard the good news of Jesus Christ... WE exalt the Gospel above all else... it means we haev to work and iron out our differences. My goal is to build bridges, not walls. #SBC21 #SBC2021 #SBC #SBCtoo
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I didn't hear the exact vote count but it was roughly a 53 to 47 percent vote split. #SBC21 #SBC2021 #SBC #SBCtoo
"We have finally, after all of these decades, begun to overturn the power structure. The messengers are listening and acting on behalf of Christ," said @ThigpenTiffany, a survivor and advocate whose abuses were mishandled by top SBC leaders. #SBC21 #SBC2021 #SBC #SBCtoo
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